In the first chapter of Mockingjay, Suzanne Collins reminds us just how terrible everything is. SAD PARTY 2011? It just might be. If you’re intrigued, then it’s time for Mark to read Mockingjay.
Oh hey, are you having a good morning, noon, afternoon, evening, or night? Has it been a rather pleasant day for you? Are you thinking happy thoughts and feeling accomplished?
WELL LET SUZANNE COLLINS RUIN ABSOLUTELY ALL OF THAT.
I’m ecstatic for where Collins has taken this story, mostly because it’s so unexpected for me, especially after what I thought the book was going to be about. AND LOOK WHERE WE ARE NOW. ::pinches Mockingjay’s cheeks::
How awesome are my predictions they are pure genius already
I stare down at my shoes, watching as a fine layer of ash settles on the worn leather. This is where the bed I shared with my sister, Prim, stood. Over there was the kitchen table. The bricks of the chimney, which collapsed in a charred heap, provide a point of reference for the rest of the house. How else could I orient myself in this sea of grey?
BACK IN DISTRICT 12 IN THE FIRST PARAGRAPH. Fuck yeah, FIRE TRELAWNEY I AM LIVING IN HOGWARTS NOW. I wish Hogwarts was real. 🙁
Almost nothing remains of District 12. A month ago, the Capitol’s firebombs obliterated the poor coal miners’ house in the Seam, the shops in the town, even the Justice Building. The only area that escaped incineration was the Victor’s Village.
Ok, I think it’s time for me to stop making bad jokes. Because holy shit there really is no District 12 left. I also knew once Katniss mentioned that this book starts a month after the end of Catching Fire, we were bound to be dealt some of Collins’s signature summarizing. ISN’T IT FUN.
Actually…it is. I was pleasantly surprised by how…not bothered I was by it. I know I criticized the pace in Catching Fire (WHICH I STILL STAND BY, AFTER THE FACT, FOR THE RECORD, FYI, BTW), and I think a lot of it felt weird because it took me out of the moment. However, here in Mockingjay, Collins doesn’t ever seem to take me out of Katniss’s experience inside District 12. As Katniss moves throughout her home and the town she grew up in, she uses the silence and despair to reflect on the past month. Essentially, to me, it feels natural.
Chapter one is gigantic info dump for us and Collins starts off with a whole lot of brain mush. First of all, there are authorities in District 13. So that implies there’s a whole system of organization to the government there, which probably also means there’s a whole lot of people there. And Plutarch is sort of in charge? I still don’t understand how he fits in yet, but I assume he’s working alongside those in District 13.
I also feel a lot of sympathy for Katniss, though I can’t understand the pain and anguish she’s going through. Collins spends a lot of time exploring what Katniss’s mind is going through after the events of the last novel and how that manifests itself physically for her. She’s been suffering from trouble thinking coherently and she mentions that she has also been given a steady supply of drugs to control her pain and her mood.
I’m curious how this is going to play out through the novel, so I’ll avoid saying much now, except that I imagine that Katniss is experiencing some form of post-traumatic stress disorder after her second entry into the Games. (The only reason I mention that is because I’ve suffered from it and, so far, a lot of what she describes seems the same.)
BUT IT’S EARLY SO I WON’T SAY MUCH MORE IN FEAR OF STICKING MY FOOT IN MY MOUTH.
“Katniss. Should I come down?†My best friend Gale’s voice reaches me though the headset the rebels insisted I wear. He’s up in a hovercraft, watching me carefully, ready to swoop in if anything goes amiss.
I’m sorry, this image made me laugh. And I literally cannot explain why. It just seems…silly? Not that Collins intended that or that I make any sense at all, but I am just imagining Gale with a cute headset on, sending coded messages back to the staff at the District 13 base, feeling like a totally useful spy or something, like a post-modern Inspector Gadget. Annnnnnnnnnnnddddd now I’ve lost all my readers. Great.
He understands I don’t want anyone with me today. Not even him. Some walks you have to take alone.
I use the Kindle app on my iPad to read. It has a neat feature that allows you to see passages highlighted by 50 or more other readers. It’s nice to see what other people find significant in a book. Those three sentences were highlighted by 438 people. And to those 438 people, I say:
REALLY.
Honestly, that last sentence is so melodramatic and frivolous that I couldn’t help but giggle wildly. SOME WALKS YOU HAVE TO TAKE ALONE. Like most of them?
Ok, enough poking fun at this. Let’s get to the real shit.
The summer’s been scorching hot and dry as a bone. There’s been next to no rain to disturb the piles of ash left by the attack. They shift here and there, in reaction to my footsteps. No breeze to scatter them. I keep my eyes on what I remember as the road, because when I first landed in the Meadow, I wasn’t careful and I walked right into a rock. Only it wasn’t a rock—it was someone’s skull. It rolled over and over and landed faceup, and for a long time I couldn’t stop looking at the teeth, wondering whose they were, thinking of how mine would probably look the same way under similar circumstances.
OH WAIT. WRONG REACTION.
YEAH. YEAH. What the hell. And, of course, it only gets worse. Turns out that those who weren’t charred immediately died of other causes while trying to escape. Their decomposing bodies litter the ground in what’s left of District 12.
You are destroying me, Collins.
But she’s also destroying Katniss. The truth is that Katniss is wrecked with guilt:
But I did. It was my arrow, aimed at the chink in the force field surrounding arena, that brought on this firestorm of retribution. That sent the whole country of Panem into chaos.
I don’t know if there’s anything I could say to counter this. Obviously, Katniss was doing what she could to stay alive. I don’t think I would ever criticize her for that. I get it. She shouldn’t have done anything differently. But she does have to deal with the fact that what she did inherently caused the bombing of District 12.
More than ninety percent of the district’s population is dead. The remaining eight hundred or so are refugees in District 13—which, as far as I’m concerned, is the same thing as being homeless forever.
NINETY PERCENT??? So, over 7,000 people died??? WHAT THE FUCK. That is far more than I anticipated. Now I completely understand why Katniss is so upset about that. Could I live with the fact that my actions caused over 7,000 people to be murdered? Fucking hell. :/
Katniss summarizes a bit more about District 13, as we learn that Gale helped a small group escape past the fence, out into the Meadow, and to Katniss’s lake house, where they watched District 13 destroyed by Capitol aircraft. (For the record, this happened just a mere FIFTEEN MINUTES after the Games ended. Fifteen minutes!!!)
District 13 to the rescue, though. I don’t know how they found the group that Gale, Katniss’s mom, and Prim were helping to take care of, but they did. And all 800 or so of the refugees from District 12 were moved underground in District 13.
District 13…well, it’s not at all what I expected. I don’t know what I think about it. They’re far more organized and rigid than what I’m used to and I’m unsure of their motives. Katniss met someone from District 10 who mentions that they’re merely gathering people to help grow their numbers due to a strange infertility issue. Ok, WHAT. I’m not sure that plan makes any sense at all, but I don’t blame anyone in this situation for being a bit paranoid.
Throughout all of this, Katniss is wandering around District 12 and finally is overwhelmed by it all, so she does something rather foolish: she heads for the Victors Village, which is completely undamaged. Which seems like a bad idea if there’s the possibility that someone in the Capitol is monitoring the place. But, again, I’m willing to cut her some slack after all this. There’s no way I could ever know how I would react in a similar situation because I can’t even conceive of it.
There in the house she spent a year in, she tries to organize her thoughts about her situation, at the persistent request by everyone around her to become the Mockingjay:
I must now become the actual leader, the face, the voice, the embodiment of the revolution. The person who the districts—most of which are now openly at war with the Capitol—can count on to blaze the path to victory. I won’t have to do it alone. They have a whole team of people to make me over, dress me, write my speeches, orchestrate my appearances—as if that doesn’t sound horribly familiar—and all I have to do is play my part.
WHAT THE FUCK. What??? How? Why? What does this even mean? First of all WHO IS SHE SPEAKING TO FOR THESE APPEARANCES? I don’t understand this at all. Also, SURELY THESE PEOPLE REALIZE HOW AWFULLY TRIGGERING THAT WOULD BE TO HER, RIGHT??? RIGHT??? Ok, probably not, since they never experienced that themselves. SO WHY. WHY.
Yesterday afternoon, as the door was closing behind me, I heard [President] Coin say, “I told you we should have rescued the boy first.â€
THANKS, PRESIDENT COIN. That vote of confidence is TRULY UPLIFTING.
This whole situation is not as exciting as I had thought it would be. As Katniss continues to fret about her involvement in the rebellion and expresses her reluctance to even be a part of it, I gotta say I side with her on this one. She just survived TWO HUNGER GAMES and Peeta is captured and possibly dead and all these people want is for her to become the mouthpiece for their cause? CAN SHE LIKE TAKE A NAP OR SOMETHING? It strikes me as frighteningly narrow and, frankly, quite rude.
Never did I think that the rebellion would piss me off. Bravo, Collins.
I’m going to skip over the return of Buttercup (WHICH IS QUITE BEAUTIFUL, I MIGHT ADD) and go right to the horrifying discovery that Katniss makes inside that house.
My nose twitches. It’s the smell. Cloying and artificial. A dab of white peeks out of a vase of dried flowers on my dresser. I approach it with cautious steps. There, all but obscured by its preserved cousins, is a fresh white rose. Perfect. Down to the last thorn and silken petal.
And I know immediately who’s sent it to me.
President Snow.
My thoughts immediately went here: OH MY GOD, GET OUT OF THE HOUSE, HE’S BEHIND YOU, which is kind of irrational. But oh well. That’s not what it meant. It was merely a sign left by Snow, who anticipated that Katniss would return to her home, even for a brief moment. And as Katniss quickly returns to the hovercraft that holds Gale, we learn what that rose truly means to her:
Positioned on my dresser, that white-as-snow rose is a personal message to me. It speaks of unfinished business. It whispers, I can find you. I can reach you. Perhaps I am watching you now.
And I will leap out from this closet and drink your blood!
No, wait, ok, the vampire theory is silly. Still, that would be pretty cool, right? Mockingjay is totally secretly about vampires, right? RIGHT???
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Yay, I've been waiting to post this!
Katniss is Southern? My mind, she is blown!
Appalachian! And blown-mind is a mild reaction!
I remember when I first watched this, and how much that accent blew my mind. I wonder if they'll use the accents in the movies.
If they don't give Katniss her accent, I will be in a RAGE.
RIGHT. SHE NEEDS IT.
Also SUZANNE COLLINS YOU ARE ADORABLE can i give you all the hugs
SRS, when she was like "Are you ready for the first chapter of Mockingjay? and then slipped on her cute little reading glasses, I was strongly compelled to curl up with a blankie and juicebox at her feet. She is ADORABLE.
Adorable yet morbidly twisted when it comes to writing books for kids. (LOVE HER)
All the best kids' stories are a little dark and twisted. Have you ever read the original tales most Disney movies are based on? If you do, read The Little Mermaid with the lights on.
Did you know that one of the original Sleeping Beauty stories had the Prince Charming rape Sleeping Beauty? And the original Cinderella story involved one of the stepsisters cutting off her toes and the other stepsister cut off her heel? Seriously, the original fairy tales are all kind of gruesome, especially The Little Mermaid, like you mentioned.
Oh GAWHD, read her Gregor the Overlander series. SO FUCKED UP!
….I loved them.
But I am definitely from the North Carolina Appalachian area and we do not talk like that- at least not to that extent. The accent that she uses is much more deep south. I realize that she is the author and must be right, but it just might not be accurate. By the way she describes the weather in District 12, it seems like it would be in the Virginia area…we should endlessly bug Collins for specifics
Yeah, that would make more sense, as the Capitol is in the Appalachians, not D12.
I thought the Capitol was in the Rockies.
The Capital isn't in the Appalachians.
Good call guys… I'm not very good at geography :/ I got them mixed up. Whoopsie!
Ever since I heard Katniss had an accent, I've tried to reread the books with a slightly Southern twang – one of the only accents I can some times manage. But not well, since I can't even do the accent I'm supposed to have based on where I grew up. I wish we could hear the accents Collins intended for the other characters, then maybe we could finally place where all the Districts should be.
Also, while Collins was introducing herself, I was reading the panels behind her and it took me a minute to realize that it didn't actually say "Charlotte was a bitch."
Well, Charlotte was the HBIC:
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Plutarch Heavensbee is briefly in there, but she reads him in General American, so no clue!
Laughed so hard at this comment.
That picture legit made me tear up. WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME?!
THIS SOUNDS LIKE HOME TO ME
AND I LOVE IT
THANK YOU, COLLINS, FOR MAKING A POOR SOUTHERN LEAD IN A POST-APOCALYPTIC/SCI-FI/APOCALYPTIC NOW NOVEL
(because, let's face it, firebombing 12? It's the Apocalypse for Katniss)
Aww, she seems slightly nervous and it's so cute! I am loving the accent as well.
LOVE the Southern accent.
But so sad that the YouTube comments are full of stupid things, omg.
"Katniss can't have a Southern accent; she's too articulate in the narrative to be Southern." <- What the everloving fuck?
Thanks, classism.
Is it really surprising that youtube comments are utter shit? I'm so glad none of it has shown up here.
Probably because people that come here actually read books and are somewhat articulate, which isn't a requirement for YouTube.
Seriously?
Wow. This is why I hate people.
Half the people who comment on things just do it so they can be complete asshats in annonymity.
My mom purposefully dropped her southern accent in the 70s when she went to business school. There weren't really women in business school then and she was blonde so she didn't want three "strikes" against her (female, blonde, southern accent). I think it's sad that when people want someone to sound ignorant or dumb they make them southern (or a blonde woman).
Is it terrible that after being surprised that they had southern accents I thought "Ooh, Peeta's a ~southern gentleman~."
jlkajgklag OKAY I LOL'D.
That suddenly explains ALL of his behavior
I didn't think of that! =D Makes sense *nod* haha
He just got 3648936145 times hotter when I imagined him with an accent.
I love that I am not the only one. I'm sorry but why can't I marry Peeta right fucking now?
Yup. He bakes, he paints, he's ~good~. He has a sense of humor, an accent, and a fierce devotion to the person he loves almost to the point of stupidity… Jeez make the girls love him even more Collins. Oh yeah- he also has integrity ie. not wanting to die as a piece in the Capitol's Games. *sigh*
Let's just all marry Peeta.
GROUP WEDDING
Oh, what? you just described my absolute dream man (he's cute too!). Goddamn I'd become a work of fiction for THAT
I wouldn't. Katniss has too much crap to deal with. Hopefully the rest of this book will be about rescuing Johanna and Peeta, who is NOT DEAD because Snow is keeping him as his own personal baker to make blood cakes for his vampirey sweet tooth, and then everyone else goes off to do the whole rebellion thing and then the rest of the book is like a bad self insert fanfiction with Peeta.
No. I can imagine him with one really well, and it makes him all the more cute. Haymitch, Prim and Gale with accents? BRB LAUGHING FOREVER
Well I think it works for Prim and Haymitch. She's a proper southern gal and he's a gruff… man.
I agree, it just makes me laugh though. (I want an cool accent so bad. I have a plain old Ohio accent — what's special or quirky about that!?)
She should have a Scottish accent … just kidding. I totally read it in my own voice though because I lack all the imagination, so anything else sounds odd. Do they have any idea who will play her in the movie yet? I'm still rooting for Kaya.
Speaking of Kaya, everyone in the book was British to me because I started out with her as my Imaginary Katniss, so I just shifted everything else to fit that.
Yeah, this movie is gonna blow my brain because it's stuck on that.
When I first read the books, I imagined everyone was British too! Even though I knew it took place in America…
Fuck yes, Southern accents!
Okay, I don't really have one (I say "y'all" a lot, but that's about it) but for some reason since moving to DC for college I'm all "Yeah I'm ~Southern~, I have the tiniest bit of a twang, be jealous!", which is probably some reaction to moving five hours away, oh the trauma, but anyway (although people asking me to fake a heavier accent is really quite annoying). Roundabout way of saying yay for kick-ass heroines with accents! I also love how there's no ONE Southern accent. Yeah, she has one, but it's different from the Central NC one I grew up with, which I really love. I think regional differences are just interesting, and yay, Collins!
Interesting. When I moved to DC (well, Virginia outside DC), my entire family was all "Enjoy living in the south!" I still get an unpleasant surprise every time I forget that I have to order my iced tea *un*sweetened
Haha, I think Virginia is technically the South, but it's the "is it or isn't it?" line, I think, especially the northern part of the state. DC must have a thing against sweet tea, because there's a guy on my floor from Georgia that complains all the time that all of the tea around here is unsweetened (although it's probably sweetened, just not enough
to clog up your veins or something. I'm a horrible Southerner diet-wise, since I only like pork if it's in bacon form, and I prefer my tea hot, of the chai variety, and with milk and sometimes honey).I'm originally from Colorado and was taught that "south of the Mason-Dixon line is the South". I think that even puts Maryland in the South, though Virginia also has the distinction of being on *that* side in the Civil War. It's certainly not as southern as Georgia or Florida, at least geographically.
It actually just gets really confusing once you get into the Mid-Atlantic states (and more west. There's an ongoing argument on our floor about whether or not Texas is a "Southern" state, besides in terms of geography). Guess it all depends on where you're from!
I would argue that "the south" is bounded by the Mississippi River just as much as the Mason-Dixon line. Though I tend to think of it historically and in terms of the Civil War which brings its own set of baggage.
I think Texas is really just it's own place.
Though, being from Colorado, I also have a tendency to lump Texas together with California. As in "the goddamn Texafornians are stealing our water and then visiting our state and failing to drive on our roads when it snows the least little bit and causing all sorts of accidents"
I'm from southern Delaware (Slower Lower!!), and the Mid-Atlantic states are hugely problematic in classifying as north or south. Our state pretty much divided in two during the Civil War, even though we were officially on the side of the Union. The Mason-Dixon line goes across Maryland and then down along the border of MD/DE, so we're outside of the line, but I grew up with lots of Southern influences and other locals strongly identified with the South. I now live near Seattle and no one here believes me when I describe Delaware. I'm actually in an ongoing "fight" with my German III class about whether or not I grew up in the South.
Hail fellow person from Colorado! (Funny that your name is Cait, since my name is Caitlin!) 😛
Completely random, I know.
Hooray for Caitlins from Colorado who spell it the right way! We should start a club
TEXAS SUCCEDED, GOSH DAMNIT, WE WERE PART OF THE CONFEDERACY, WE'RE SOUTHERN
SECEDED, not succeeded
apparently rage kills my spelling 🙁
I'm from Texas, and maybe Texas isn't "geographically" southern, but culture-wise, we are ~definitely~ southern. Just saying.
I meant to post a link to this video:
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Ha, that reminds me of the supposed "Sweet Tea Line." I'm from the Maryland side of DC, and I was shocked when I found out that McDonald's served sweet tea in the south (before it went nationwide). DC is the South to northerners and the North to southerners. I like being in the middle!
I guess the Founding Fathers picked the right place for the nation's capital. Hooray middle!
Aside from the swampy, muggy hellhole aspect, yes! All you could want in a seat of government!
That made me laugh SO HARD, I thought I would get a hernia.
I just want to applaud Collins here. I've lived in the Appalachians my entire life, and the fact that she made her heroine Appalachian is wonderful.
I'm not sure that people know the sort of discrimination that takes place towards myself and other people here. I live in a resort area, and you wouldn't believe the seemingly innocent comments that are directed towards the natives every day. I learned very early on to adopt a generic accent when speaking with other people b/c it brought a lot of attention. Most of the time it wouldn't be any worse than "oh, your accent is so cute! Say something Southern!" but you get really tired of it fairly quickly. The worst part is people who assume you are stupid because of the way you talk. I got made fun of and teased about it until I learned to judge my surroundings and act accordingly. I can't tell you how many times I've had to hold my tongue when someone says something insulting.
It's one of the main reasons that I'm getting my Masters in Appalachian Studies. To try and bring a bit of understanding about a culture that is incredibly rich and widely misunderstood.
Anyway, that was a tl;dr way of saying that I love that Collins chose someone as seemingly unlikely as Katniss for this, and showed that it was the right decision all along.
Plus her accent is spot on. She's missing some of the more obvious colloquialisms, but they're hard to write.
Is Collins from the area?
Wow, that was fantastic. I'm so stoked Katniss has that accent. It never occurred to me before that she would, but it totally fits! <3
Oh I love this accent, its like walkin out and talkin to my neighbors, except my neighbors are way more southern sounding than this.
YEAH SOUTH!!! and GO VOLS!!! <~~ don't hate on the Vols ya'll, its been a rough couple of years
lol what part of TN are you from?
And IA, she's got the dropped g's spot on, along with the musicality of the accent.
Born and raised in Knoxville, TN and currently a UT student. I'll probably never leave this area. Can't beat it with a stick.
Dude, that's awesome! I'm from Western NC. And my mom's family is from Kingsport.
I'm applying to UT's Ph.D. program when I finish my MA.
holy shit, there be tennesseans on this board! I'm originally from Nashville but moved very far away about six months ago so I can not tell you how much hearing about the Vols warmed my heart. I don't really care about them but I care about people who care about them. <333
Katniss with a southern accent, and Peeta as a southern gentleman! I love it. And I agree with what everone else said earlier. Him being a southern gentleman makes all his actions make total sense.
Confession: it's actually sorta hard for me to get my mind around Applacia being considered the south. Technically, yes I know it is, but I'm from Louisiana, where anything north of Georgia is considered "yankee." So I dunno, that thought just amuses me.
Technically, we don't consider ourselves Southern. At least not true Appalachians. It's a VERY different culture and set of priorities. Little known fact, Applachia sided with the North during the Civil War, and thus got bombarded from both sides. Raids and pillaging from both the North and the South.
The fact that Collins, has 12 be Applachia,Virginia really makes me go all gooey,because I live in Va, and my grandmothers side of the family are from Appalachia! ( They were also coal miners I kid you NOT!!!)
YAY! Also Katniss sounds WVian. Woot woot! WV ROCKS!
Also people who have accents are NOT NECESSISARILY ANY CLASS OR DUMBER BECAUSE OF IT!!!!
ACCENT RAGE Y'ALL!
Can I just say how much I love you for your reaction to the 438 people who highlighted that passage??? I laughed right out loud here at work. Because it's totally true that people glom onto the melodramatic (hello, I'm talking to you, certain fanfiction authors, lol), and it makes me want to tear my hair out. Bravo for calling it out! ~*buddies on the astral plane*~
Yeah, the whole thing about having people to dress her, write her speeches, etc makes me creeped out. Is this just Capitol 2.0? I wish Katniss could run off and live alone in the woods now and not have to deal this crap.
It's creepy and I really like that Collins put it there, to parallel the two government systems.
You expect District 13 to be this magical place full of rainbows and butterflies, but then you find that it's really not that different than the Capitol. Poor Katniss.
I liked the parallel with District 13 and the Capitol. It's really messed up that they are using her, but it's also an interesting argument — means to an end?
That sentence about the rose gave me chills. Why does he smell like blood? Why are there roses? What is the significance? WHY? WHYYYYY?
I barely even looked at the sentences in this book, just grabbed occasional words to keep track of the plot as I flicked through the pages at a ridiculous pace.
TEAM BUTTERCUP, FOO!
Sorry, I'm not even a cat person, but I adore that mangy cat. Maybe because he sort of reminds me of Crookshanks?
If I were Katniss I'd so be looking for Hogwarts at this point. Screw District 13, go be a Witch and eat fizzing whizbees and stuff. This plan is foolproof!
This opening chapter sort of danced between dull and poignant, for me. I hate infodumps in the worst way, so I was unfairly biased from the start.
The thing that gripped me was Katniss having all of the meds shoved down her throat. As a teen I had out-of-control seizures thanks to a closed-head injury, and going between being a zombie and a hyper-emotional wreck had me feeling like I had no grip on reality. I couldn't deal with the trauma because I couldn't access my emotions in a healthy way at all. I haven't had ptsd, but I have had other traumas that made me understand a little bit of her numbness.
BUTTERCUP IS THE REAL STAR OF THESE BOOKS
I caught the end of The Princess Bride on tv yesterday and I can't not think of Princess Buttercup rn.
Haha I was watching that on tv last night. *Love that movie*
Haha I kept thinking the same thing. 🙂
This is INCONTROVERTABLE mine fellow Buttercup Enthusiast!
BUTTERCUP 4 PREZ!
Buttercup is totally a Kneazle.
for realz.
Katniss should say " I'm tired. Can't we just be Death Eaters?"
Peeta to Haymitch: You're worse than Garfield on a Monday.
Gale: I'm in a RAGGGE!
Haymitch: You're absuuuuuuuurd!
Johanna: DID SOMEONE SAY DRACO MALFOY?
YAY I LOVE BUTTERCUP. That cat has attitude! And he does remind me of Crookshanks.
He has CAT-ittude!
*shamefaced* I apologize for the bad pun, but I couldn't resist. I have terminal pun-itis.
Why yes, Mark, I am having a lovely almost-noon watching the snow and news about Egypt (is the NDP HQ on fire? Is Hildawg gonna say anything better than Biden? ETA- No, nor am I surprised), so the first chapter of Mockingjay fits in nicely. It's a bit frivolous and melodramatic, and it's a bit serious and rage-inducing.
Seriously, using her as your revolutionary symbol, then blowing her off and essentially saying saving her life was a waste?
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Honestly, Coin, how do you think being an asshole is going to help? Collins is doing a great job making you question authority.
I was actually pleased to see what District 13 was, because it was what I pictured in my head as soon as it was hinted it was still there.
YES!
Heh heh, I'm glad you're having fun poking fun at the first chapter. It won't last long.
They have a whole team of people to make me over, dress me, write my speeches, orchestrate my appearances—as if that doesn’t sound horribly familiar—and all I have to do is play my part.
FUCKING HELL. WHAT. WHY. Can't the girl ever have a say in her own damn life??
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*Snerk* President Coin. I'm sorry, I CAN'T TAKE YOU GUYS VERY SERIOUSLY WITH NAMES LIKE COIN AND SNOW (as ~strong leaders~, that is. I take the fact that both of you are assholes very seriously). And speaking of which, that rose is creepy. Thanks, dude. Coin, you're not helping. "We should have saved Peeta first"?! Yeah, well you chose to get Katniss instead (I'm still mad about Peeta, but WE WOULDN'T WANT TO SAVE KATNISS BECAUSE SHE'D BE MUCH BETTER OFF IN THE HANDS OF THE CAPITOL, Y/Y?), plus she's the one who actually blew up the arena, so how about you shut up, let her live her life without manipulating her, and DEAL WITH IT.
Alright, this is why I love prediction time. Hell yeah, D12 in the first chapter, and Buttercup! Which one of y'all predicted Buttercup would be back? Because I give both you and Mark a high five on the astral plane!
I'd never put the numbers together, but holy shit. 7,000 people dead from D12? Also, I had no idea that the district was even that big! Plus I think it's one of the smallest districts. How many people does a district like 11 have??
President Coin. I'm sorry, I CAN'T TAKE YOU GUYS VERY SERIOUSLY WITH NAMES LIKE COIN AND SNOW
Yes, but it allows for awesome hypothetical dialogue like "Katniss is too shell-shocked to be a good little Mockingjay? Coin is gonna FLIP!" and "This rose doesn't scare me. Killing the President will be SNOW PROBLEM."
OH MAN I GIVE UP. YOU WIN.
…No, I did NOT wait a few minutes before posting this to see if I could come up with some brilliant pun, why do you ask?
I don't think Coin will ever CHANGE, she's too focused on her plans to make Snow FALL.
Damn pun-itis, it's hard to control. 😀
Don't you think that Coin has TWO SIDES? She has the potential to FLAKE on this Snow business.
I don't think she will turn TAILS and run, she's got her HEADS on straight. I also think there will be an AVALANCHE of support for the fight against Snow. I think in the end he will be left out in the COLD.
Maybe Coin is secretly in the Capitol's POCKET.
These puns just made my day!
Oh my god i love all of you.
Kinda makes me wonder, though, and since I'm too lazy to check – is 12 supposed to be the smallest district by area or population? Because that would explain why there's 7000 people dead and it seems like a large number for the smallest district (or one of them.)
I'm not sure about area, but in the first book when describing the reaping Katniss says that the 8000 people of District 12 barely fit in the square, so we do have a population estimate from the beginning.
Thumbs up for Joseph Gordon-Levitt on (500) Days of Summer Gif. Pretty much express my feelings for this books. And I might imagine that the plates are characters heads. But whatever.
Coin and Snow are pretty funny names for characters that tent to ruin everything, but I think that was intentional. They're still not as bad as Reneesme or Albus Severus.
Heh. Albus Severus
I just want to poing out: Severus was his middle name, I think, so people would never actually CALL him that.
UNTIL THEY FOUND OUT
keep in mind, he's a wizard, from a wizard family, mostly interacting with other wizards. Chances are high, that either of those names will be seen as normal.
(though chances are high that there will be a lot of Harrys in either his year or the years surrounding him.
well, having the ACTUAL EXACT name of someone dead might be worse (James Potter, Fred Weasley) right?
Except for his mom.
I love that gif. That's my fave gif in all the interwebz. so off topic, I know.
The names in this book remind me of the TWoP recap of the Firefly pilot: "Book? Wash? River? What, do we just run out of names in the future?"
I hate those recaps! The recapper doesn't seem to have any love for the show, as ALL TRUE FANS have.
Mark's recaps > TWoP
"500 Days of Summer" gif! Yay!
Go, Gadget, go! I might have the Inspector Gadget theme song on my ipod. Might. And the Doug theme song. Possibly. I miss my childhood.
Thank you, Collins, for crushing my soul so quickly as we start Mockingjay. Wouldn't want to have any hope, would we?
You killed Cinna. He just gets a tiny 1/3 of a paragraph and then he's dead. I wanted a whole rescue scene, where they got Johanna, Peeta and Cinna out of the Capitol, but Cinna's been hurt beyond repair. I wanted Katniss to come to his bedside and they talk and then he dies holding her hand. But then Katniss decides to become the Mockingjay while tears were streaming down her face. I wanted to mourn him, dammit!
And Peeta's family is gone, too. I wanted his mother alive so I could yell at her through the book for not appreciating her son. I wanted his father to stay alive because he seemed pretty awesome. I'd have appreciated his brothers to survive as well so I could learn their names (come on Katniss, you've got to know their names by this point). Peeta is busy being tortured by the Capitol, I'm sure, and you kill off his family back home. All in the first 15 pages. Thanks.
But Gale, I've got to give you your due. I don't like you, but getting people to the lake and saving them…props, man, props.
Little things I thought about during this chapter: District 12 is (was :'() a lot bigger than I had thought. About 8000 people. I had always been under the impression it was 1000 or so. Also, based on the prediction post and how much Harry Potter talk there was, I realized they don't ever talk about HP or books in general. Then I remembered HP is about an ordinary boy endowed with great power by somebody else who finds himself leading a rebellion against a murderous, oppressive force and succeeds. Other books would show freedom and choice and things like that. And we can't have that, can we, Snow? People might get ideas.
Then I remembered HP is about an ordinary boy endowed with great power by somebody else who finds himself leading a rebellion against a murderous, oppressive force and succeeds. Other books would show freedom and choice and things like that. And we can't have that, can we, Snow? People might get ideas.
50000 points for whatever house you're in.
Oh, why, thank you! And btw, I would classify myself as a Ravendor 🙂
Haha, I'm a… Ravenin? Slytherclaw?
Slytherclaw FTW!
I have the theme song in my head now.
And it's awesome.
Go, Gadget, go! I might have the Inspector Gadget theme song on my ipod. Might. And the Doug theme song. Possibly. I miss my childhood.
I do have the Doug theme song. And I'm not even embarrassed of it. I also have the Hey Arnold and Pinky and the Brain ones. I AM A CHILD. Pander to me.
also really wanting to know more about Peeta by now gosh damnit :/
I mean supposedly he had more of a social life than Katniss ever did and despite him spending every waking moment with her in Catching Fire, SHE NEVER REALLY ASKS WHAT THE HELL, WOMAN (and I'm still peeved we didn't get some amazing awkward Mellark family dinner where his mom calls Katniss a skank and she makes out with Peeta at the table just to piss her off, I mean REALLY NOW. Oh fanfic. You fulfiller of broken dreams, you.)
/end rant
I have wondered about all the aspects of culture that we don't really see. Do they have writers, poets, artists, actors, etc in the Districts, or is it only in the Capitol? If so, do the Districts get access to these books/films/etc? When the apocalypse happened, did they save the great works of "our" time? Did they have a book-burning squad a la Fahrenheit 451? Is there some sort of underground society that preserves said books etc?
These are all very important questions
also, you know, I've never heard anyone in the first two books talk about religion
I don't think think that kind of thing gets mentioned, because Katniss is the type of person who would be all "Books? Fuck books, I need to find FOOD." Other than useful books, like the one of plants that she was working on with Peeta. And it seems like the Capitol would have the kinds of films that they had in Fahrenheit 451- pointless and mindlessly entertaining.
They better be burning Twilight but that seems just like the kind of story the Capitol wouldn't mind keeping around. What's this? A tale of a young woman giving up all her freedom to someone else? I approve.
"They’re far more organized and rigid than what I’m used to and I’m unsure of their motives. "
Do they need a motive other than "not getting nuked by the capitol"?
Also, Mark? Don't turn around too quickly, in case they bite, but there are Scientology ads on your page O_O
GODDAMN IT. WHERE. I can block them in Adsense.
I REFUSE A SILENT BIRTH— I mean— Hi, I gots cookies.
CAN WE JUST TAKE A MINUTE TO THINK ABOUT HOW IT'S BEEN A MONTH, AND THERE IS STILL NO SIGN OF PEETA?
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No. We can't. Because then we will never stop crying
I need to start rereading Mockingjay right now. I was in such a frenzy that I don't remember half the stuff that happened, though that could be denial. And I don't remember what happens when, so I will refrain from commenting for fear of spoilers. Will come back when read first chapter again.
Me too! I'm in danger of accidentally spoiling things because I don't remember in what order everything happens. I'm just like, "OH YEAH EVERYTHING IS TERRIBLE THANKS SUZANNE COLLINS."
Ok, I think it's time for me to stop making bad jokes.
No keep making jokes we need them to lighten the mood.
Annnnnnnnnnnnddddd now I’ve lost all my readers.
Nope. Still here. For me what makes that sentence silly is the word "swoop." Also why is Gale on the super high tech flying machine. To monitor Katniss? A pilot or crew member could be doing that crap.
Ok, enough poking fun at this. Let’s get to the real shit.
No I don't want to go to the real shit. It's sad.
Amazingly relevant gifs as always.
Whoa you did the math. *is impressed* *is now horrified by what the numbers mean*
800 is a small group if it means that it's out of 7,000. He got 1% of the population out. Yay now I did math <s>but it's probably wrong</s>.
Buttercup?! WHERE'S WESTLEY??????? I don't remember the scene with the cat tbh.
Ohhh. a "white-as-snow rose". . . be a bit more creative Snow.
oops I didn't strike that last part out.
Will it work now because I feel sillyActually, I think it said that he got 10% out, somewhere.
Thanks. I'm not reading along anymore so I don't know the details of what's happening. And now that I think about it I was really off on doing the math. 800/7,000 is not one percent. If I did it right this time then he saved 11.4% of the population. Or maybe I should stop attempting to do math since it's been a year since I've had a math class.
Haha, I think it was originally about 8000 people, and more than 7000 (Mark estimates) were KILLED, leaving about 800.
I wish Hogwarts was real.
Don't we all.
a post-modern Inspector Gadget. Annnnnnnnnnnnddddd now I’ve lost all my readers. Great.
Any reader who leaves at the phrase "post-modern Inspector Gadget" probably doesn't belong here anyway. SHUN THE INFIDELS.
(For the record, this happened just a mere FIFTEEN MINUTES after the Games ended. Fifteen minutes!!!)
Sounds like they had a strike force ready. For District 12 or any district, I don't know. I couldn't really figure out the geography of Panem and how the Capitol was able to act so quickly.
Mockingjay is totally secretly about vampires, right? RIGHT???
Spoilers!
It was probably just for District 12 for Katniss. I'm sure if Beetee actually managed to get the knife through the force field, they'd still have bombed District 12.
I wish Hogwarts was real.
Don't we all my friend…don't we all.
WAIT. YOU MEAN IT ISN'T REAL??!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Just keep crushing my soul.. 🙁
It is. I got my Hogwarts letter yesterday.
Awww, I'm torn between being happy for you and being sad that mine didn't come *cough twelve years ago cough*. Stupid owls, so unreliable.
12 years ago, that'd make you a first-year in 1998.
So you'd be at Hogwarts at the same time as Hermione (who retook her year then, I think)
Cool! I hadn't thought of it that way. From the wiki, it says she was born in 1979, the same year as my oldest brother (a muggle through and through), but since I started reading the series when I was 11, and JK released about a book a year for 1-4, I've always thout of myself as the same age as the characters.
You think they'd let me do my classes by post from Canada? I'm really far behind.
Yeah, you could do a Kwickspell…
Not gonna lie, I just thought about how I'm never gonna get to go to Hogwarts and teared up. How am I a real person?
I actually die a little inside every time I think about this. We real people demand a fictional magic school right now!
I don't even know what I'm going to do when the movies are over. The only good thing about that it's that the Twilight ones will be over as well.
I WANT MY SIRIUS NOW. And magic would be cool too.
… What? /wrong priorities.
This will be me from the opening credits all the way to the closing credits: Just picture every sobbing-person-gif you've ever seen. And I mean ugly sobbing.
Priorities? Funny, that word isn't in my vocabulary.
EVERYONE NEEDS A SIRIUS
BUT IT’S EARLY SO I WON’T SAY MUCH MORE IN FEAR OF STICKING MY FOOT IN MY MOUTH.
But we love it when you stick your foot in your mouth! It's part of the charm… we all had crazy thoughts the first time we read them, so it's fun hearing what thoughts you have in the same situation! MORE FOOT IN MOUTH COMMENTS PLEASE.
Yes. it is crazy how real and sad this book starts off.
Homer—–> Stitch gif's made me LOL
EVERYTHING IS AWFUL IN THE WORLD.
In other news, LOL Mark I love how you're pocking at this chapter because, IT WON'T LAST LONG. Collins has a way of fucking everything up.
Also, WHAT THE FUCK HAVE SHE DONE TO PEETA.. PLEASE DON'T BE DEAD. PLEASE DON'T BE DEAD. PLEASE DON'T BE DEAD. D: D: D: D:
Gale, U R VERY SMART. Not the best person in the world but very smart. And Dictrict 12 🙁 🙁 Poor people. AND MADGE!!!!!! 🙁 🙁 🙁 Now Kat is really alone (well she has Gale, but whatever, I think he is busy BEING A REBEL AND SHIT).
Gifs= Awesome as usual.
THE MADNESS BEGINS. I read this book months ago, and I still am not prepared. Be afraid Mark, be very afraid.
Team Inspector Gale? >.>
p.s. – NOW I HAVE THAT THEME SONG IN MY HEAD. GAHHH.
I APPROVE.
So, if District 12 only had 7,000 or so people and it was one of the smallest, I wonder how big the larger districts are? It's interesting that there haven't been more uprisings in the bigger ones before everything in CF, unless we just don't know about them (esp. with higher concentrations of people). The use of fear and subordination (right word??) by Snow is incredible.
Has Snow been President for the whole 75 years of Hunger Games? Dude has some longevity.
Has Snow been President for the whole 75 years of Hunger Games? Dude has some longevity.
Well, you know. Vampire and all.
Haha how could I forget? Must remember such things.
CAN SHE LIKE TAKE A NAP OR SOMETHING?
IKR???
I've read Mockingjay twice now, and lemme tell you, it doesn't matter how many times you read the fucking book YOU WILL NEVER EVER EVER EVER BE PREPARED.
YOUR UNPREPAREDNESS CANNOT BE DEFINED. EVER. JUST. OMG. UNPREPARED TO THE NTH.
Let's leave it at that.
also can i just say that i'm unlurking for Mockingjay?
I want to be re.unprepared with you guys.
Huzzah! Comments for everyone!
I personally lurked the book 7 if MRHP, after I had caught up, and then made myself an intensedebate profile just so I could join in! Feels good, doesn't it?
I loved the beginning of this book – Collins gives us (and Katniss) no rest.
The passage where Katniss walks around thinking, "I killed you…and you….and you…" I thought that was so sad 🙁
I was also really surprised by the way District 13 behaved. I expected…well…it's kinda silly, but you do expect them to kind of swoop in and save the day, don't you? Being all warm and fuzzy and super-duper, but hey, Collins has never been a timid writer; she throws everything back in our faces. She made District 13 this rigid, cold place run by Coin, who within a few lines makes you snarl at her on the astral plane. That all seriously took me by surprise. I remember reading this first chapter and being like "….oh"
Oooh I'm bouncing with excitement over this 😀
Yes, I agree, she's got PTSD. As do most of them. It just manifests in different ways. I continue to say that Harry Potter and The Hunger Games would be an excellent example of using books to help kids in treatment for PTSD and other results of developmental trauma.
Anyone else get a bad taste in their mouth for District 13?
This is the saddest chapter so far in this series….over 7000 people dead, probably more in other districts, Peeta could be dead. Same with Cinna and who knows the other tributes. And Katniss is sort of the cause of all this…..
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I love how Katniss acknowledges that the leaders of the rebellion are treating her just like the capital when it comes to drugging her against her will. I know we've all talked about the similarity quite a bit in the comments, but it really was refreshing to know that Katniss sees it too and shes not ok with it.
I like this as an opening chapter. We left Catching Fire on such an action high, even though it drops us in the deep end emotion-wise, there's a great sense of calm that's like 'retaking a country doesnt happen in a day'.
Also, I was reading this whilst eating my dinner and didnt look where the fork was going properly, completely missed my mouth and tipped gnocchi in tomato sauce down my shirt. Well done Treasure >.<
Da nana na na Inspector Gaaaale… Sorry. I had to.
"I use the Kindle app on my iPad to read. It has a neat feature that allows you to see passages highlighted by 50 or more other readers. It’s nice to see what other people find significant in a book. Those three sentences were highlighted by 438 people. And to those 438 people, I say: REALLY"
I love reading on the kindle and seeing the pop highlights. Most of the time I think the exact same thing. ORLY?? You find THAT interesting? *moving on*
I'm glad we're on this book … looking forward to seeing what happens and what you think.
I finally had to turn off the popular highlights. They annoyed me too much and nobody else ever highlights things that I think are interesting and it makes me sad.
I just finished Dave Eggers' Zeitoun in about a week (HOLY SHIT IT'S SO GOOD) using the Kindle app. And every highlighted passage was fantastic. It helps that the book is pretty much flawless.
I think WV is a good compromise, because Western PA could also work, aside from the accent (which I'm pretty sure is meant to be Appalachian, because it's rhotic and she lives in the mountains, haha).
This is a really depressing beginning. Katniss is being drugged and isn’t sure of what is real and what isn’t. I expected her to not know what happened to Peeta, but I was surprised that she didn’t feel safe in her new place.
District 13 is a disappointment. Somehow I pictured it to be more normal, with people living in houses above the ground. I guess I didn’t realize that it would still be vulnerable from attack by the Capital with their hovercraft.
Creepiest scene in the chapter was President Snow’s rose waiting for Katniss in her bedroom. She is still under watch. No wonder she gets depressed.
I guess I expected the rebellion to be nicer ( maybe?) to Katniss. i was sort of pissed when she talked about appearances and make overs. WTF? *sigh*
Lol, Inspector Gale. I love how your mind works, Mark. Never change!
One thing that makes it so creepy for me is that Panem destroyed the coal mines when they bombed District 12. Didn't avoid them, didn't try to stop the flames, just let them burn. If the coal means so little to the capital then WHY DO THEY MAKE PEOPLE STARVE WHILE MINING THEM?? Hi there 8k people, we want you so little we hope you die of black lung. <shudders>
… I never thought of that … that makes everything extra awful.
Yeah, especially since those things can burn forever. They just don't care.
Guess Beetee already solved global warming for them.
That is fascinating! Thanks for the link!
yeah I got nothing
In addition to all of the disappointment in District 13 and general sadness, my main thought from this chapter is this:
If they make a Mockingjay movie, I really want Buttercup to show up carrying a dead mouse. Because that would imply that he has not been eating humans. Man-eating cat scares me.
Oh, you just know Buttercup ate Lady to eliminate the competition for Prim's attention.
I hope Buttercup ate the asshole peacekeepers..
REMEMBER ME?
Probably not, but I told you I accidentally read the first chapter of Mockingjay instead of Catching Fire. HA, INTERNET TRICKING ME.
I got spoiled massively. UGH. At least she didn't mention that many specifics of the Games… But I did read about Cinna, Peeta, the destruction of district 12 and the resistance in 13. I kept on thinking "Okay Collins, you're making a huge mistake here by having this as an intro to a very long flashback". Apparently I expected her to do that xD
Me:
"OMG, YOU CAN'T JUST KILL CINNA OFF-SCREEN. OH WAIT, SKIPPED A BOOK."
FML
oh no, that had to be horrible, having Catching Fire spoilt like that!
WHAT. omg you read the wrong book??? HOW DOES THIS HAPPEN.
I googled "read catching fire online". Opened website "Read the first two chapters of Catching Fire online!". Little did I know that the page got updated to include "FIRST TWO CHAPTERS" of Mockingjay as well.
Well, kids. One thing to learn out of this:
NEVER TRUST A SITE CALLED "TWILIGHTMOMS.COM"
i thought this was a really well written chapter but i'm just really surprised that they let katniss go back to district 12. like we just learned, snow knows they might come back and may have planned an ambush or something. i mean, why take the risk?
I always want to scream at Katniss "YOU ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS; IT IS THE CAPITOL. IF THE CAPITOL WAS NOT SO VIOLENTLY AND EVILLY OPPRESSIVE THIS WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED. YOU ARE NOT TO BLAME FOR THE ACTIONS OF AN EVIL DICTATORSHIP (even if they are in response to your actions)"
I mean, her guilt is a totally understandable response and I'm sure I would feel the same. But dammit, I don't want Katniss to be sad. :'(
She got it from Hot Topic. That's where Hermione does all her shopping, you know.
As Tara Gillesby would have you believe. 😛
Excuse me, I think you mean that "Bloody Mary" does her shopping (which no longer includes Gryffindor merchandise) at Hot Topic. Or other "goffic" stores. Obviously not poser or prep stores.
Agreed. I'd rather they not do it than have it turn into a parody or sound like Gone with the Wind.
"However, here in Mockingjay, Collins doesn’t ever seem to take me out of Katniss’s experience inside District 12. As Katniss moves throughout her home and the town she grew up in, she uses the silence and despair to reflect on the past month. Essentially, to me, it feels natural."
This is where I think Collins' background in writing for TV shines. The way I picture this scene playing out in the Mockingjay movie (MAKE IT HAPPEN, LIONSGATE!!) is Katniss surveying the devastation. As she looks around at certain parts of District 12, the film cuts to a flashback of Peacekeepers and what-have-you bombing the snot out of the place. Then, we go back to Katniss – back to the attack on 12 – and so on. It's a very well-executed and seamless way to bring us up to speed of what's been going on since the Quarter Quell ended.
And the rose in the house?? OMG – GET OUT OF THERE, KATNISS!!
(Mark, please keep up the jokes because, quite frankly, you are a genius.)
I think the only issue I have with the flashbacks here is when Katniss starts talking about Beetee and Finnick. Probably part of it is that I never really *felt* the Finnick/Annie relationship. (It struck me earlier that as far as we know, Katniss doesn't even have reason to assume that Finnick's Annie is Annie Cresta the would-be tribute. Peeta assumed it was, but Finnick seemingly hasn't talked about it to anyone yet. Katniss's confidence in saying that Annie is a mentally unstable woman who's the only person Finnick truly loves is kind of baffling to me.)
I suppose the rest of my discomfort with that section might be down to the slight tone change; compared to her talking about stress and claustrophobia and hallucinations and walking through the ruins of her old home, talking about what Beetee and Finnick are up to right now (even if it's weeping and being "not really firebrand material") makes it sound a bit like an A Team Montage to me.
On another note: I really liked that our introduction to Peeta's current status took the form of (paraphrasing) "Peeta was taken prisoner; he is thought to be dead; most likely he is dead; it's probably for the best if he's dead." Mostly because it reminds me so much of Everything is Illuminated with its lipstick messages, like "You are Yankel. You love Brod."
Never did I think that the rebellion would piss me off. Bravo, Collins.
RIGHT? But I love it. I love that Collins's world isn't split into black and white. Like, the rebellion is against the pitol, so it's obviously good, right? But yet they're still treating Katniss like an object, like a piece of meat that they can fashion into whatever the want for their own gain. Katniss still isn't being treated like a human being with real feelings.
THE CAT!I totally freaking called it! when he popped up I was all "TRELAWNEY IN THE HOUSE MOTHER FUCKERRRRRRRRRRR"
😀
I feel like my predictions are a success now, no matter what happens!
also
"My thoughts immediately went here: OH MY GOD, GET OUT OF THE HOUSE, HE’S BEHIND YOU" METOO!
I'm still mildly creeped out by it, tbh! President Snow is creeeeeeeeeeepy!
What creeps me out is WHY they are letting Katniss roam free. I mean, they must know she would've gone back to 12, so why don't they have a person permanently stationed there to capture her? Maybe they WANT her to be free for some reason, and if that is the case then WHY? This cannot be a good thing.
First of all, I'm glad you pointed out that you were mad at the Rebellion, and that she was amazing for actually setting up a situation that you would be mad…I felt *the same way*…reminds me of Dr. Horrible, that it takes a lot to feel sorry for a guy who seeks murder and world domination and, well, evil.
Second HOLY CRAP WHEN I FIRST READ THAT I WAS LIKE, CALL GALE NOW, GET OUT OF THERE, PRESIDENT SNOW IS ~WATCHING~ AND YOU'RE GONNA START A BATTLE OVER YOUR HOUSE HOLY CRAP WTF GET OUT NOOOOOW
I know!!!! I had Mark's same reaction to the rose on the desk. I jumped about six inches.
PEEEEETA. D:
*only nonspoilery thought I possess*
Cherry Jones as Coin, Gregory Itzin as Snow. Discuss.
Cherry Jones was exactly who I thought of, so much that I thought "No way she wasn't watching the last season of 24 while writing this," but I've always thought of Snow as Keith Carradine.
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IDK man, Snow totally reminded me of Charles Logan, what with the smarminess. That actor was also in Firefly! He played that dude who gave his 26 year old son a hard time for still being a virgin and barged in on his son's session with Inara, being all "What are you pouring tea for, deflower him already"
Yuckyyyyyy. Gregory Itzin can convey yuck really really well.
Did not even know that Cherry Jones was Cherry Jones until I just googled her but HOLY FUCK THAT WAS THE WOMAN IN MY HEAD WHEN I READ MOCKINGJAY.
ME TOO!! (have Cherry Jones in my head for Coin, I mean)
YES YES YES
sorry but Hermione Norris as Coin.
The Capitol executes Gamemakers to make examples of them. The Peacekeepers clearly were not keeping the damn peace. Collateral damage is more than acceptable.
Also, what about Portia? What happened to her? Is she still alive? Prisoner? Carrying on her probably-dead colleague's brilliance?
Alternately, Shohreh Aghdashloo as Coin. I just really really like Shohreh Aghdashloo. Even more than Christina Hendricks.
Amazing choice, I agree!
So I wrote down my reactions in a Word document back in August, and I never got to share them because that "Hunger Games Readalong" only had one blog for Mockingjay and everyone stopped commenting. I don't have a reaction for every chapter, but the ones that I do have I will post here. These are as fresh as Mark's reactions:
Chapter 1
Holy crap Katniss is in a dark place. I’m guessing much of the first 9 chapters will be her emotionally trying to figure out what it is that is worth fighting for. Harry Potter’s got her pwned there.
Why’d they cut the electricity before dropping the bombs? They could have kept everyone inside to die. I’m really surprised to find out Gale really got them all out after chapter 26 of Catching Fire, I thought they would have gotten out sooner.
I imagined they cut the electricity to make everyone panic, and just didn't think about the fence?
So they just didn't want to kill everyone, they wanted to kill everyone and make sure they were all scared when they died?
President Snow: Well on his way to being the creepiest person ever.
Seriously, in the movie he'll probably end up being played by Tim Curry and oozing evil charm.
Oh god, I would hate if that happens. Because I have serious Draco in Leather Pants issues with everybody Tim Curry plays, and I don't want to think of Snow like that. D: He would totally do great at it, though.
Hello fellow troper!!
Yeah he would be awesome. But I know that I would totally be sitting there and making heart-eyes while everyone else is horrified at how evil he is.
Even the evil pollution monster from Fern Gully?
Fern Gully FTW!
I'm not sure if even Tim Curry could make Snow awesome. He's kind of a weak and uninteresting villain, and he comes off more as a very petty sociopath than as a terrifying and powerful dictator.
Ah, miscommunication here , I think. Tim Curry would be awesome, because he would automatically make the character of Snow ten times creepier. Snow himself would not be awesome. Just really, really creepy.
Tim Curry will forever be Long John Silver to me. <3
I want PEETA to come back.
I want to not be in the middle of a Holocaust.
I want to kill Snow. >:(
Yeah I had some major issues with the Holocaust imagery. Well not issues as wanting to weep forever. My grandfather was an Auschwitz survivor and I've always had a real issue reading/watching anything Holocaust-related. But the idea of ash everywhere made from human flesh horrifies me to no end. I can deal with the idea that 7000 fictional people who were not fleshed out at. all. died, but the fact that Katniss has to see their charred remains and steps on one of their skulls I can't deal with. I sort of don't want this to be in the movie because I think it'd be kind of embarrassing if I burst into tears at the very first scene.
You know why that passage is funny? BECAUSE IT'S A FREAKING SILENT HOVERCRAFT FROM NOWHERE. They are inherently ridiculous.
I AM SO EXCITE.
That's about it.
No, one more thing: Buffy killing Snow y/y?
It's The Capitol. They don't give a fuck.
I cannot see the gif you posted for Peeta but oh God just his name. Endless tears are endless
BUT IT’S EARLY SO I WON’T SAY MUCH MORE IN FEAR OF STICKING MY FOOT IN MY MOUTH.
Awwww, but half the fun is watching you gnaw on your ankle!
can i just mention the curious fact that stephanie meyer is quoted on the cover of the spanish edition im reading? I dont see this on the cover of the english ver. but perhaps its on the back.
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perhaps she'll learn a thing or two about writing, or at least storytelling, from reading THG (if she in fact did). meh.
anyway IM OFF TO READ SOME MORE BECAUSE I CAN >=3
Ugh, Smeyer is indeed quoted on the back of the English version. Right underneath Stephen King.
YAY FIRST CHAPTER!
Ugh, this book. There is no happy.
That is the appropriate gif to explain my feelings about Peeta at this point.
Why did you suddenly appear right here? Now like I look like a crazy double commenter. Uggghhhhh
What ever happened to Effie? Where is she?
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Must we think about that?! Are we not crying enough already?
Unless….. are you suggesting Effie is a traitor?
No! I can't ever believe Effie would be a traitor, (I have a soft spot for Effie FYI) I was just curious since Katniss didn't talk about her? Is she in the Capitol…District 13… living with the wolves? I don't know but I MISS HER!
You should delete this
done.
next time i would definitely appreciate being told why, rather than told TO, because i'm always going to want to be part of the community and not spoiling it for anyone, especially mark. sometimes people don't realize that what they are saying is spoiling, even in the slightest way. i'd just rather be quickly told why, even if a private message, so i know! 🙂 and definitely told why and given a chance to do so before being downvoted. i understand being down voted for intentionally spoiling/doing something wrong, but i fully admitted i didn't remember aspects of the book and was commenting solely from a point of non-knowledge, and that should count for something.
SANTANA!! <3
I don’t know if this picture has been posted already but pictures don’t show on my ipod I am disappoint apple that you can’t make img src tags work.
Aaaaaaand the html code doesn’t show at all I WANT A COMPUTER DAMNIT
i give a hearty "YES! THAT'S EXACTLY HOW I REACTED!" to everything in this review. (except i've not suffered from ptsd. everything except for that).
*hands*
it's interesting how things that i felt very critical of in the first book, here i just accept and believe. (so far as writing style or pacing or w/e).
Ummm so I commented and it got eaten.
This gif is shows perfectly my thoughts of Peeta in the hands of The Capitol. This is just something that should not be allowed at all.
"CAN SHE LIKE TAKE A NAP OR SOMETHING?"
LOLing all over the place. Truefax.
"I wish Hogwarts was real."
I was really pissed when I turned eleven and Hagrid didn't bust my door down.
My letter got lost in the mail.
I don't care what anyone says. The Ravenclaws are calling me now.
Yeah, same. :/ *denial*
Did anyone else think it is kind of funny about how we are reading about Panem having a revolution and the same thing is going on in Tunisia, Egypt and Yemen?
Well not exactly funny, but yeah, I saw the parallels. You forgot Jordan and Lebanon.
Luckily, mine only shows one for an iPad, and one for Rifftrax, two things of which I heartily approve.
Madge, Cinna, Wiress and Co. are in District 14. 14's main export is Grade-A Denial, and their ruling council is headed by Sirius, Remus, Tonks and Fred. I'm hoping my immigration papers go through soon, it's cold and lonely out here!
Oh, and those things you mentioned are hella-creepy, and I will now have nightmares forever about them placing Katniss into some sort of forcible breeding program by D13 so they never run out of figureheads. Or cloning her without her consent and they have dozens of vats of Katniss look-alikes just waiting to be decanted as needed. Guh! I now have permanent heebie-jeebies.
Please, tell me how to get there. I will be joining you shortly.
MARK.
MARK.
MARK!
No mention of Cinna!? :@ *is hurt*
"BACK IN DISTRICT 12 IN THE FIRST PARAGRAPH. Fuck yeah, FIRE TRELAWNEY I AM LIVING IN HOGWARTS NOW. I wish Hogwarts was real."
I am so in love with the fact that Harry still infiltrates all your thoughts and reviews. Mine too, for all time.
Inspector Gale!!!
I am also partial to all of the comments about Buttercup eating corpses and the never ending HP references.
I don't like what I've heard about D13. Rebellion against the rebellion against the capitol anyone?
And lastly, I WANT MY WIFEY JOHANNA BACK!!!!!!!!!!!
Katniss met someone from District 10 who mentions that they’re merely gathering people to help grow their numbers due to a strange infertility issue. Ok, WHAT
MORLOCKS
I WAS THINKING MORLOCKS
WHO ELSE??
Oh, God. It's like it's the beginning of the end….
*cries*
And that is due to several things.
1. Mockingjay means it's almost over : (
2. Cinnaaaaa and Peetaaaaa
3. Plus Katniss totally blows off Bonnie and Twill, she's like "psshhh, you idiots couldn't survive in the woods for a week… YOU DERSERVED TO DIE!"
I planned to post this right when the sadness started. I forgot it started so soon.
But Collins has dragged us down to the Temple of DOOOOOOOM
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( http://forum.dvdtalk.com/archive/t-386847.html source)
Try to prepare Mark. Even though its impossible.
Blame my eyesight, but what's going on in this gif??
I LOVE COLLINS FOREVER FOR HAVING KATNISS BE A POOR APPALACHIAN GIRL WITH BODY HAIR!!!
AND UNPLEASANT SCARS!
REALISM! YAY!
Collins is the best author I've ever read in terms of realism.
"Good" to see Katniss reacts in the way I wanted after the last Catching Fire chapter. Anything else would be just wrong.
"I hate everyone now." And rightly so. "Rude" is a term I'd never use to describe that, but it fits.. it is rude.
What a depressing start. Let's see how it evolves..
EDNA MODE FOR PRESIDENT COIN!
HECK YEAH!
“I don’t know if there’s anything I could say to counter this. Obviously, Katniss was doing what she could to stay alive. I don’t think I would ever criticize her for that. I get it. She shouldn’t have done anything differently. But she does have to deal with the fact that what she did inherently caused the bombing of District 12.”
Strictly speaking, it was the Capitol, not Katniss that bombed District 12. The Capitol sent new peace keepers, and organised torture and whipping. The Capitol shut down mines, so people starved. The Capitol cut further food supplies, and people were starving. I mean, surely it was a matter of time before people could no longer bear the oppression and rebelled, and then met with the same response from the Capitol. After all, when District 8 rebelled, the Capitol had no issue to immediately respond by exploding the factory including workers who may not have had anything to do with any uprising, including childen.
My thoughts immediately went here: OH MY GOD, GET OUT OF THE HOUSE, HE’S BEHIND YOU
Yes. This. And I'm the kind of person who hides when the music in movies gets creepy, but in Hunger Games YOU CAN'T LOOK AWAY because it's a book and I was just like NOOO DON'T JUMP OUT ;____; DON'T DO IT
hey all. this was discussed in some previous posts but i never got to ask the question…what's this RON from the future!! business hahah…i guess it was something to do with predictions for DH? i am just so curious as an HP fan what it might be. i figured the latest post would be the most active to get some funny responses! 🙂
I believe the theory was that Dumbledore was actually Ron from the future, but I don't know many of the details.
Look, I think that this breaks Mark's Rules on Spoiling. You clearly don't so I can't change your mind.
Sigh. Weekends. Well, if you're trying to avoid a 5 page paper due tomorrow at 9pm, like me, then you should come over to the SPOILER site (if you've read the series, that is), and we can continue the procrastination!!
http://markreadspoilerzone.wordpress.com/
Woohoo! 3-page paper, but I'm with ya
Also: thank you so much for explaining what the hell that "X Highlited………" thing was. I was reading on my Kindle the other day and it confused me to no end. Now I understand. This has been revolutionary to my Kindle-reading experience (lol)
"post-modern Inspector Gadget."
OwO
DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN INSPECTOR GADGET, DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN, WOO HOO! DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN INSPECT GADGET DUN. DUN DUN. GO GADGET GO!….
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I'M SORRY MARK. I TRIED TO READ THE REST OF THE REVIEW, BUT THE MINUTE I SAW THAT MY BRAIN GOT STUCK ON INSPECTOR GADGET AND HIS THEME SONG.
So agree about wanting Hogwarts to be real. Here it for the Slytherins!!
I so wanted more about the government.
"Never did I think that the rebellion would piss me off. Bravo, Collins."
So true! The rebels were supposed to be super cool and good to the bone and stuff, and we get this mean lot using Katniss regardless of her situation. =/
you need mention more peeta!!!!
Peeta 🙁
Also, I think it's possible that the women in District 13 have infertility problems because of radiation. We know that 13 was responsible for nuclear power before the Dark Days (right?), so maybe when they were fighting with the Capitol they got bombed, and the radiation screwed with their reproductive systems.
Also: Peetaaaaaaaaaaa 🙁
Well, it could be women and men having fertility problems from radiation, but yeah, that's what crossed my mind, too, thanks for articulating it!
That's true! My bad. I haven't read it in a while, and for some reason I thought it was only women…whoops! 😀
The summer’s been scorching hot and dry as a bone. There’s been next to no rain to disturb the piles of ash left by the attack. They shift here and there, in reaction to my footsteps. No breeze to scatter them. I keep my eyes on what I remember as the road, because when I first landed in the Meadow, I wasn’t careful and I walked right into a rock. Only it wasn’t a rock—it was someone’s skull. It rolled over and over and landed faceup, and for a long time I couldn’t stop looking at the teeth, wondering whose they were, thinking of how mine would probably look the same way under similar circumstances.
While I was reading this, ironically this song starting playing as soon as I started the chapter…[youtube iRM-eWWty2g http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRM-eWWty2g youtube] which just made it even more despairing for me, and…I can't say anything without tearing up….Poor District 12…. :'(
But still…over 90% of the District 12 dead….wow
I am back on the hovercrafts again —- So it takes Days to fly one hovercraft to 13 — but the (now hot since movie cast Donald) Mr. Snows hoover crafts can be full of pilot, fuel. orders, bombs and ON location in 15 minutes. Did the rebels let Haymitch Drive or something? And now the rebels have INVISIBLE hovercrafts — why didn't they use those to pick up victors rather than the slow one —
Yesterday afternoon, as the door was closing behind me, I heard [President] Coin say, “I told you we should have rescued the boy first.”
THANKS, PRESIDENT COIN. That vote of confidence is TRULY UPLIFTING.
I took that to mean that if Peeta were here, Katniss would probably be cooperating.
I understand Katniss' reluctance but I also understand the Rebellion's need to get her leading as soon as possible. The moment's there. The Districts are at war with the Capitol. It's crucial to find a way for them to band together RIGHT NOW. So at least they have the respect not to force her into it…at least yet.
And oh man Peeta's entire family is dead. I can't believe Gale didn't attempt to rescue them. I feel like if it was Peeta in that circumstance, he would have done it. Oh tragedy and then Finnick is a sobbing mess. No one's in a state to lead the rebel cause.
President Snow: Hey Katniss. I know what you did last summer.
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Coin creeped me out when I read the book. I mean seriously, scared me have to death.
I hated Coin throughout the whole thing.
Absolutely hated… Wanted her to die. . . Even from the first time she spoke I hated her.