In the nineteenth chapter of Mockingjay, there is NOTHING GOOD AT ALL. Unprepared forever. Intrigued? Then it’s time for Mark to read Mockingjay.
I had completely forgotten that Coin disliked Katniss so much until now. Maybe I was distracted by the fact that she’d allowed her to train and then get sent to the Capitol, but now I’m regretting that I didn’t pay more attention to this detail. I didn’t get it at the end of the chapter when Katniss said that Coin clearly wanted her dead, but Boggs’s explanation at the beginning of chapter nineteen puts it into a better perspective.
“Here’s as much as I know. The president doesn’t like you. She never did. It was Peeta she wanted rescued from the arena, but no one else agreed. It made matters worse when you forced her give the other victors immunity. But even that could be overlooked in view of how well you’ve performed.â€
“Then what is it?†I insist.
“Sometime in the near future, this war will be resolved. A new leader will be chosen,†says Boggs.
I roll my eyes. “Boggs, no one thinks I’m going to be the leader.â€
“No. They don’t,†he agrees. “But you’ll throw support to someone. Would it be President Coin? Or someone else?â€
And that’s how I realized that Coin’s plan to prop up Katniss as the Mockingjay had the potential to backfire against her. Katniss’s instict early in this book that she was disposable was spot-on. She is being used and now Coin is ready to discard her. Sounds like the perfect segue towards having Katniss abandon this circus of an assignment and head off on her own. That is easier said than done, though, because now Katniss doesn’t feel right stealing Boggs’s Holo. Instead, she demands to do something instead of just sitting around for days shooting windows. Boggs convinces Jackson to assign her to a watch on Peeta that night at midnight.
In the meantime, Gale and Katniss get a chance to talk about the futility of their current situation, where Gale takes the opportunity to admit that he has already figured out Katniss is planning to bail out of this sad party and go off on her own mission. Katniss wants to go on her own, but it might be of some help for her to have someone with her who knows her so naturally. GALE AND KATNISS ADVENTURES AHEAD? We can only hope.
Remember Haymitch? Oh yeah, he’s still a part of the story, too! And he delivers a very necessary call out to Katniss’s behavior towards Peeta, who clearly has no idea that Coin is using him as well.
“You’re punishing him over and over for things that are out of his control. Now, I’m not saying you shouldn’t have a fully loaded weapon next to you around the clock. But I think it’s time you flipped this little scenario around in your head. If you’d been taken by the Capitol, and hijacked, and then tried to kill Peeta, is this the way he would be treating you?†demands Haymitch.
Touche. Seriously. Yes, this situation sucks. I won’t deny that at all. But Katniss is assigning fault to someone who doesn’t deserve it and I’m hoping she’ll finally get some perspective on this. Or try. Just please try. ::tears::
Oh, wait, how about some more sad?
Leeg 1 has finally broken down over her sister’s death, and her muffled sobs reach us through the canvas. Realizing with shame that my fixation with assassinating Snow has allowed me to ignore a much more difficult problem. Trying to rescue Peeta from the shadowy world the hijacking has stranded him in. I don’t know how to find him, let alone lead him out. I can’t even conceive of a plan. It makes the task of crossing a loaded arena, locating Snow, and putting a bullet through his head look like child’s play.
I have a feeling there is a lot of tragedy ahead. I don’t like this. I mean…seriously, I don’t know how Collins is going to tie all of this together. I really don’t. Eight and a half chapters left in the whole series? I AM LOST.
There’s a really fascinating scene in the middle of this that I really adore. Which…ok, that’s weird to say, since it’s frustrating and complicated, but I mean that I adore it because it’s just such a fantastic piece for Collins to include. Katniss’s watch over Peeta is not uneventful, but it’s also largely based on conversation between the two. Peeta starts off with one of his “difficult†statements about Katniss:
“These last couple of years must have been exhausting for you. Trying to decide whether to kill me or not. Back and forth. Back and forth.â€
Finally, though, Katniss doesn’t immediately jump to the defensive. She knows that, historically, this doesn’t really work. So Katniss tries being neutral for once:
“I never wanted to kill you. Except when I thought you were helping the Careers kill me. After that, I always thought of you as…an ally.â€
It’s a good step, but Peeta is still confused. And Finnick comes up with a great idea that’s helped Annie out with the same confusion she has felt in the past: Ask questions. If he’s confused about something, just ask. The thing is, none of these people actually have to do anything to help Peeta, which is why I grew to love what these people do here.
“Ask who?†Peeta says. “Who can I trust?â€
“Well, us for starters. We’re your squad,†says Jackson.
“You’re my guards,†he points out.
“That, too,†she says. “But you saved a lot of lives in Thirteen. It’s not the kind of thing we forget.â€
I’m glad someone in Thirteen remembers this. I don’t know, especially after recent events, I don’t believe that Coin cares at all. To her, Peeta is damaged goods, no longer able to meet her needs for the rebellion. Fucked up.
But other people begin to pitch in to help Peeta. Jackson devises an ingenuous game called “Real or Not Real†to help Peeta sort through all of the thoughts running through his brain. Again, none of the people around him have any real obligation to help Peeta, and yet they do. Sure, it’s a difficult and awkward “game,†but they still go through with it. For Katniss, it’s probably the hardest, as she has to help him reconstruct even the most mundane of memories from their past together.
I’m glad there’s a lot of time spent on this because GOOD LORD WAR IS BORING. I’m not saying Collins is boring, but I did expect SHIT YEAH BATTLE BATTLE BATTLE immediately and that’s not at all what is happening. So I wasn’t surprised the Coin felt the propos were still too boring. I mean…what did you expect? You won’t let them fight in battle. That seems to be obvious. But I do feel the need to bring up something else: Why is Coin having propos filmed at all? Who else is needs them at this point? They’ve won over all of Panem. Is it for the remaining citizens of the Capitol?
Regardless, they head to a residential block with a couple of active pods (one that sprays gunfire, the other traps you in a net) to create a fake battle. SERIOUSLY. This is what they are wasting their time on. Peeta comes along with them and that’s when he realizes Pollux is an Avox and then WTF-ery abounds.
“There were two Avoxes with me in prison. Darius and Lavinia, but the guards mostly called them the redheads. They’d been our servants in the Training Center, so they arrested them, too. I watched them being tortured to death. She was lucky. They used too much voltage and her heart stopped right off. It took days to finish him off. Beating, cutting off parts. They kept asking him questions, but he couldn’t speak, he just made these horrible sounds. They didn’t want information, you know? They wanted me to see it.â€
Lavinia. That’s the name of the girl from the woods. And Darius was tortured to death. I can’t. I seriously can’t.
Despite this, Gale and Katniss have to press on to film the day’s propo. Boggs leads the group of them down the street for the mission, which is mostly to disarm the two pods on the residential block. (Well, yes, it is being filmed, but this is a half-mission for once.) Gale’s assigned to knock out the first pod, which he does successfully as the rest of them hide behind buildings.
In hindsight, I feel a bit blindsided by how silly this is, as they all have to fake as if they’re fighting. And that’s because of this:
“Pull it together, Four-Five-One,†he says firmly. But you can see him suppressing a smile as he’s double-checking the next pod. Positioning the Holo to find the best light in the smoky air. Still facing us as his left foot steps back onto the orange paving stone. Triggering the bomb that blows off his legs.
Never. Never, ever prepared.
She never did. It was Peeta she wanted rescued from the arena, but no one else agreed.
Wait. Why am I agreeing with Coin here? Did no one else want to save Peeta, or is it that Katniss was everyone’s first priority? Why were you intent on only saving ONE person? Do you know how awful this book would have been if you couldn’t have been bothered to save Finnick?? You people should listen to me more often because I’ve been saying forever that you should have saved them (Katpee) both. Don’t ask me how it would have worked out, y'all should have done it.
And, here we go:
“If your immediate answer isn’t Coin, then you’re a threat.”
Oh, shit.
“She doesn’t need you as a rallying point now.”
Shit.
”There’s only one last thing you could do to add fire to the rebellion… Give us a martyr to fight for.”
ASLDKGHALKSDH;LAKSHG SHIT. (I would have added gifs to better ~illustrate~ the series of expressions on my face, but I’m in the middle of writing a paper so I can’t.)
It’s kind of scary to think that we’ve gotten to this point. Katniss, girl who was thrust into this as the face of the rebellion, has finally finished playing the role of the Mockingjay. Just like the conversation with Plutarch towards the beginning of this book, she was absolutely necessary to the cause. Until she wasn’t. And now she’s disposable. Just another tribute. In fact, the best thing she could do would be to get killed. Of course this means it is PARTY TIME! Because I love Hunger Games parties of No Nice Things, Ever!
Oh man, Boggs deciding you shouldn't die as a martyr is putting another wrench in your plan to steal his Holo?! Damn those people being nice to you and saving your life! Betraying people would be so much easier if they cut that out! There’s a flaw in this line of thinking somewhere I’m sure, but I have no idea where! Oh yeah, you’re still alive, Soldier Everdeen.
”If you’d been taken by the Capitol, and hijacked, and then tried to kill Peeta, is this the way he would be treating you?”
Oh snap, Haymitch! Have I mentioned lately how awesome you are? Yeah, it’s kind of gratifying for a few seconds to be mean sometimes. But not to Peeta. Especially not when it’s to hijacked Peeta who may still be deciding whether to kill you or not. LOOK AT YOUR LIFE. LOOK AT YOUR CHOICES. And then we head to one of the most depressing parts of this book for me.
Oh, man. Real or Not Real. I can’t even talk about how utterly heartbreaking this “game” is. Yeah, we’ve known for a while that Peeta has no idea what his true memories are. But to hear Peeta actually asking these questions because he can’t remember things like his favorite color just makes it that much more terrible. And while we’re at it:
”They kept asking him questions, but he couldn’t speak, he just made these horrible animal sounds. They didn’t want information, you know? They wanted me to see it.”
I CAN’T DO THIS ANY MORE, COLLINS. AND GODDAMMIT, THANKS FOR THE ENDING OF THIS CHAPTER. Augh, this book.
I love the idea of the Real or Not Real game. It is so sad but the perfect way to help Peeta sort out his confused brain.
I totally agree. How else would Peeta be able to figure out these things, short of someone sitting him down and telling him his life story? Plus this way he can ask about the things that are most important or confusing to him. I just get caught up remembering why he needs to ask these questions and then I'm busy focusing on how it is all the sads in the world. 🙁
This is the point where absolutely everything I say ever will begin to be spoilery. So I'll just pop in every now and then with an unrelated gif. I'm hoping you're down with this.
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This whole chapter is so heartbreaking but still that cute little cat made me smile.
Same for me, but with random youtube videos.
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I would have been so mad, I read that book in about a day just to avoid spoilers like that
I wish I had read the books when they came out. By the time I decided to read Harry Potter, I had already seen six of the movies and my sister had already told me every detail of wasn't in the movie. It's impossible to be more spoiled than I was.
*ducks head* I was one of the people who did that…
I approve
OMG WE REALLY NEED THIS GIF RIGHT NOW. 'Cause seriously, all I can say about the end of this chapter is "Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit."
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Oh god, that cat is adoracute. Also, that Harry Potter vid was hilarious. Cruel, but hilarious.
I also have a cute kitty image to contribute. Unfortunately, I don't know how to embed gif images here, so I'll just use the direct link.
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Kitties are even cuter when there's sound involved.
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! THAT IS JUST
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*runs screaming through the night as cuteness proximity melts my brainpan*
I haven't been able to comment for days for lack of anything non-spoilery to say. Here, have a bulldog on a skateboard:
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Totally acceptable pastime.
AWWW. Where was this gif when I was reading Mockingjay the first time around? Could have seriously used it because this book has all the sadness in the world, I swear. And I thought Deathly Hallows was rough, yeesh.
My contribution to the cuteness will go along with my hamster theme from yesterday;
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Ugh, this is the part of the book where I took a huge swallow and said, "SHIT HAS NEVER, NOR WILL IT EVER BE, THIS FREAKING REAL."
And of course, I meant to include a BEEN somewhere there.
I was having similar thoughts at that point, but then I read on and IT GOT MORE REAL.
Ugh, this is the part of the book where I took a huge swallow and said, "SHIT HAS NEVER, NOR WILL IT EVER BE, THIS FREAKING REAL."
And then you feel stupid because shit gets even more real! In fact, shit got so increasingly real that after a point I thought I was imagining the words I was reading. I just . . . I . . . fuck it. Mark, your barin will fall apart.
We should start a fund now for his repairing-the-blown-mind surgery.
amen to that
I liked Boggs. And Collins had his legs blown off. Thanks Collins, thanks a lot.
No, but seriously, I had to re-read that last line like five times because I was like: 'What the frack just happened?' And that's what's brilliant about it, because in real war, that's exactly how you feel. Completely blindsided; one second he's there, and then he's not.
When Collins brings it, she brings it hard.
DOOMSDAY GIF.
WHYYYY? SADNESS FOREVER.
Ok, back to Mockingjay. One of my favorite bits is when Katniss finally opens up to Peeta a little bit.
But more words tumble out. "You're a painter. You're a baker. You like to sleep with the windows open. You never take sugar in your tea. And you always double-knot your shoelaces."
Then I dive into my tent before I do something stupid like cry.
I just really love the details that Collins included. They're very intimate. Not in the sexy times kind of way, but in that sort of closeness kind of way that only comes from sharing your life with someone. Like, I lived with one of my best friends for two years and I still don't know if I could say something so detailed as the fact that she always ties her shoes with double-knots. So I think the information that Katniss gives Peeta gives the readers a sense of how much Katniss (however subconsciously) really cares about Peeta. But then it's too much for her, remembering the Peeta she used to have, so she has leave so she doesn't start to cry. Poor Katniss. 🙁
Those details are totally heart-crushing, because you're right, you only know them about someone you share your life with so completely that you can't help but notice those silly mundane things like how shoelaces are tied or how tea is made. As simple as this is, and as shockingly depressing as so much of the book is, this is one of the saddest parts to me….the realization for Katniss that the Peeta she knows and loves doesn't even remember his favorite color and might never get himself back…..UGH. Epic Sad.
It's one of the rare moments of vulnerability for Katniss, too. SADNESS.
And now I got stuck with Kate Nash's "The Nicest Thing" in my head.
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And that quote is why I love them forever.
Peeta/Katniss: We will break your heart with sadness and angst.
Yes I was wondering how in the world she knew all that about him. Loved him more than she ever realized.
I don't remember much of this book – I read Mockingjay in the fall and have read tons of books after it.
But this chapter struck me as memorable: the torturing of poor Darius and Lavinia, the conversation of Peeta and Katniss, the 'Real or not real'-game, and then, in the end, Boggs… *has to stop 'cause sobbing uncontrollably *
Poor Boggs. I really like him! And I mixed up my Leegs. Whoops.
Real or not real was a great idea. Finnick is the best; his experience with Annie has made him perfect for helping Peeta. Squad 451 does seem like the best place for Peeta, even if Coin wrote him off and sent him there to take out Katniss. Oh, and related to that, it seem that all of Katniss's problems stem from leaders attributing political motive to her attempts at survival. Their paranoia and lust for power is what has made her a danger to them.
Why is Coin having propos filmed at all? Who else is needs them at this point? They’ve won over all of Panem. Is it for the remaining citizens of the Capitol?
To keep up morale? You want the people in the districts to be reminded that they're fighting and winning. And, yeah, maybe to break the people in the Capitol, too. Plutarch said that 451 is a disinformation and propaganda squad (again, best name ever).
What's more motivating than having your Mockingjay die towards the end of the war and victory? D:
Their paranoia and lust for power is what has made her a danger to them.
Harry and Voldemort parallel, yes?
Mark, I think you need to add the following tags to this entry:
eternal sadness
infinite tears
heart-breaking sorrow
anguish layered in despair
this is why we can't have nice things
…I just had this amazing mental image, about the last one, where Prim is like cleaning their house back in District 12, and Katniss is like reading a book or something, when all of a sudden CRAZY!PEETA bursts through the wall like the Kool-Aid Man, grabs Katniss, and she starts kicking his ass.
And Prim is like ":\"
(…don't judge, three hours of sleep and an overactive imagination.)
Also, Super Special Awesome Happy Train Leaving to Never-ending heartbreak and no more joy for all the eternal time in all the universesland!
Coin= Evil, evil, evil!
I have a feeling there is a lot of tragedy ahead. I don’t like this. I mean…seriously, I don’t know how Collins is going to tie all of this together. I really don’t. Eight and a half chapters left in the whole series? I AM LOST.
Could this book be filled with any more despair and awfulness? Dreading it all….
Boggs!! Your legs! Your understated sarcasm!
Coin is EVIL FOREVER!
Maybe she's a female clone of Snow created by Capitol scientists.And the she broke out and took control of 13?
Most. Brilliant. Theory. Ever.
Seriously…that would explain a lot about her.
I remember you saying Mark, a couple of times, "is this real or fantasy?" Did you know how closer to the truth you were? I want a t-shirt so bad that says "Real or Not Real." Breaks my heart.
that t-shirt exists..I've seen it.
BOGGS!
The end of this chapter was the first time I just had to stop reading this book – not for time constraints but just because I couldn't anymore. In retrospect, I love how eerie and haunting the scene leading up to it is – it's serene and kind of ridiculous. Katniss thinking to ask if Boggs or Cressida is in charge, Michael's ridiculous attempt to fake desperation for the camera, fake smoke flooding the street. When I reread this scene, my brain starts playing that sort of hollow music that plays in movies when something unexpectedly awful is about to happen. There's sort of a slow-motion surreality to it… Collins sure as all hell knows what she's doing, and terrible as it is, I am looking forward to seeing this scene in the movie… like four years from now. But, seriously, if they don't get the transition of mood done correctly I am going to be so pissed because Collins provides all of the visual cues you need.
And finally, Katniss acknowledges that her defensiveness isn't working and tries for a different, more reasonable tactic! This is why I love that girl – she makes a lot of mistakes, but you see her throughout the series actively learning from them. I think I was caught off guard about as much as Katniss by Haymitch's lecture the first time around – I had been irked at her but could understand where she was coming from, but once Haymitch pointed out that Peeta would in no way have acted like that towards Katniss, it just clicked and I felt really hopeful for the first time that I might see my Peeta again…
…that is, if he hadn't been in a hopeless war situation and liable to lash out at any second. 🙁
and, once again, BOGGS! BOGGS WHY! WHY DID YOU HAVE TO STEP BACK?!
Oh, and in the Aeneid, Lavinia's hair caught on fire. Here she's a redhead. More burning.
I liked the difference in Katniss and Gale's reactions to Peeta's story, too.
ETA: I decided to look up that part on Google Books, and I thought it'd be nice to include an excerpt from L.R. Lind's translation (probably not the best, but it's easily available):
Cinna's costumes Y/Y?
Thanks for mentioning this, and including the excerpt.
And she's a character in Titus Andronicus who, after getting raped, had her hands and tongue cut off by the perpetrators. Not Shakespeare's best.
Yeah, inspired by Verginia and Lucretia, right?. I think we've tread this ground in the comments before, oddly enough. Just by using classical names, Collins is bringing a lot of tragical subtext.
(oh, nm, inspired by Ovid. There are too many raped Roman women to act as inspiration.)
And did you know her father was Titus, like the boy who want cannibal in a Games a few years ago(in the book)?
Collins, please, please, please couldn't you have given me a moment so the smile on my face at the idea of nostril flaring can fall off naturally? Like, two seconds, that's all I'm asking for.
This was a chapter full of sad. Break out all the Lion King, Up, Ten crying and/or standing in the rain, Dawson sobbing, Futurama dog gifs you can find. Darius seemed like an awesome person. I felt bad enough that he had been Avoxed, but this? God. And we finally know the name of the redheaded girl who has been in every book. Peeta can't remember what's real and what's not. Katniss feels so much pressure and is confused and overwhelmed. Seriously, there's not one moment of happiness that isn't instantly ruined.
One thing that stuck out to me: Finnick gave Peeta his rope. I mean, of course he did, he's amazing, but it shows how fantastic he is. He was rather unhappy with Peeta a couple chapters back but he still understands how confused and tormented Peeta is and tries to help him. Basically, the point of those last sentences was I love Finnick.
Just a thought: the mentors usually help the child of their own gender, and if Finnick was a mentor in the first Games, that means he was most likely the mentor to the boy from 4, the only Career who died on the first day. And in my personal head canon, Peeta killed the boy from 4 to get in with the other Careers and demonstrate his skill with a knife. I'm not saying Finnick was particularly close with the boy, but he did consider his own mentor, Mags, to be one half of his own family, so there was potential for bonding.
Oh, that last paragraph (which has been incorporated into my personal canon now!). Finnick is absolutely awesome. Hence my dismay and little rant at the beginning of my comment at the thought that D13 might have been dead-set on getting Katniss and only Katniss out of the arena
(how exactly was that planned? It seems like there was way too much chaos going on. But I suppose I should just let that issue go). I'm glad Beetee got rescued too (although I tend to forget about his awesomeness since we don't see him as much), but Finnick. <3I got the impression that they grabbed everyone they could, then ran before the Capitol defenses got there. Katniss, Beetee, and Finnick were by the lightning tree, I think, so they were easy to pick up. Johanna and Peeta were down in the woods fighting Brutus and Enobaria, so they just couldn't get to them in time.
Wasn't Enobaria with Finnick, approaching Katniss and Beetee? I wonder how she could be captured by the capitol while Finnick was rescued by D13. And why didn't they fight? There seems to be something we still don't know.
Maybe they just left Enobaria there since she's from District 2 and wasn't in on the rebel plot.
maybe she ran from the rebels, instead of letting them take her with them? The District 2 people are more likely to believe Capitol propaganda after all.
This would imply that a big red 13 or a mockingjay was drawn on the rebel's hoovercraft and Enobaria knew what it meant.
Maybe she couldn't have known it was D13, but I think it would be pretty obvious that a hovercraft breaking into the arena would be in rebellion against the Capitol. Given her status, maybe Enobaria figured she'd get worse treatment from rebels than from the Capitol?
I just reread Marks review of CS chapter 27: Katniss believed that this same hovercraft was a Capitol's hovercraft and since there were hovercraft around to take the corpses, this seems much more plausible than assuming a rebel hovercraft breaking into the arena.
But Katniss was near unconscious, horribly injured, and not really capable of observing much. Enobaria was (presumably) conscious and active. Also, the Capitol hovercrafts don't usually come until the living are gone. Besides, Enobaria would probably be tipped off by the fact that the hovercraft was taking the live contestants and not the dead ones.
That's probably what they did.
But there is still this other issue. Before Katniss remembered who the enemy is, she considered to shoot both Finnick and Enobaria, because they seemed to be allies.
I'm still wondering how the escape happened too. When did they come up with this plan? How much did everybody know? Why was Chaff always under his invisibility cloak? When did they all talk this over? How did they communicate all this without the Capitol ever finding out? I have questions that need answering, Collins.
I keep forgetting that Beetee got rescued =/ I love him, but he's never around. He's probably always in the hummingbird meadow inventing weapons I don't understand.
As far as I'm concerned, using Seymour is a crime against humanity…
I don't know how Finnick or any of the other victors dealt with being mentors. On top of being turned into a prostitute, he was forced to watch kids die every year and hide his relationship with the woman he loved. I love Finnick, too. He's amazing.
Except that career districts have lots of living victors, so Finnick may not have had to mentor every year.
Although, does each tribute get a single mentor? It's what I've always thought, but I suppose they could pool resources. Which, of course, would be another negative for the poor Districts.
The theory in my head, which is not supported by the books in any way, is that each Tribute gets one Mentor and those districts with multiple mentors get to take turns every year. Which could also be a benefit for the Career Victors. At the very least, they don't have to watch their own mentees (is that a word?) be murdered annually. They may make it a team effort, but I have chosen to believe that there can only be two mentors per district, or even just one if necessary, like Haymitch.
But we were told in this chapter that Finnick was a mentor in Hunger Games 74. So he's the person Peeta asks when he has questions about the Games, like Gale is for all things District 12 related and Katniss is for everything else. So, if our beliefs about the mentor system are correct, then Finnick was the mentor for the only Career who died at the Cornucopia.
I think the counterpart for mentor is protégé, but I like mentees. 😉
I think that the career mentors traded off, yah. But I also firmly believe they made Finnick come to the capitol for the games every year anyway, so he likely did more then his fair share of mentoring. Can't you see him offering to mentor for someone like Annie, to keep her away from Snow?
I cannot. I just physically cannot.
All the sads in the world. My brain cannot handle such unpreparedness.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOGS!!!!
But look on the bright side! This dog is adorable!
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OH THE TRAGEDY.
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FINNICK!!!!!U R VERY GOOD FOR HELPING PEETA, FINNICK, HIGH FIVE!
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PEETA:
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DARIUS AND LAVINIA?
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MOAR PEETA?!?!?!?!?:
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OH WAIT WRONG REACTIONS!
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AND BOGGS??!?!?!?!?!??!??!
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your gif is appropriate.
I do like that we get to know the name of the girl who Katniss met in the woods. Even though the ending is a tragedy.
Wow, I really never realised that this book was SO SAD!
lol, have you not read the books?
It's an non-stop ocean of sad. But that's why I like them, for not shying away
I have read them, it's the one chapter at a time thing that magnifies the sadness!
Agreed. When I rushed throug a few months ago I got hit with the intensity of the text but then I cried and moved on. Now we're reading so slowly it feels like the sadness will never end.
There is so much sadness, but I feel like we're building up to the grand climax now. I still don't think both Peeta and Gale are going to survive to the end, but I really hope Peeta recovers some of who he once was.
I definitely understood Katniss defensive reaction to Peeta, but I'm glad Haymitch called her on it. Peeta needs her to be on his side right now, even if he isn't completely on hers.
I don't really see how Katniss is actually going to pull off killing Snow. I mean, she can run off with her squad now, but they have no plan, and no idea where the guy is. I would imagine he's pretty well guarded, besides.
Also, OH NO BOGGS!!!!! ;_; ;_; ;_;
AND WHY THE ROSE GIF?!?? WHYYYYYYY!??!?!?
D: D: D: D: D: D: D: D:
I loooooved Boggs but to me he just smelled like death. : He's a really sympathetic character, always treating people with respect, a great squad leader, the father of a little boy, etc., but I personally tried not to get too attached even though he was one of my favorites in this book. But that happening didn't really shock me. The fact that it happened NOW did, sure, but after I figured out what happened (I had to read the last line a few times too) it was kinda like, '..Yeah, well.. 8C.'
Oh God, I'm sad about Boggs's legs again. Yeah, Mark, I…don't know what to say anymore.
I have a feeling there is a lot of tragedy ahead. I don’t like this. I mean…seriously, I don’t know how Collins is going to tie all of this together. I really don’t. Eight and a half chapters left in the whole series? I AM LOST.
Wow, only eight chapters of abject misery left? Ah, don't worry, let me spoil you a bit so you'll be prepared.
Chapter 20: Boggs gets robot legs, kicks Peacekeepers in the face.
Chapter 21: Katniss finds Snow, punches him in the face a lot. Snow gives her a lollipop.
Chapter 22: Coin steals the lollipop. Katniss punches her in the face a lot. Hey, look, a unicorn!
Chapter 23: This entire chapter is a flashback to the biggest party in the history of District 12. There is a ginormous cake.
Chapter 24: THE EARTH OPENS UP AND SWALLOWS SNOW AND COIN.
Chapter 25: Boggs kicks Peeta in the face with his robot legs; he returns to normal. Meanwhile, Beetee builds a resurrection machine out of moss and paper clips and brings Rue, Mags, Wiress, Thresh, and, yes, even our beloved Foxface back to life.
Chapter 26: Nationwide carnival of celebration! More unicorns! Hilarious monkeys with little hats that don't try to kill you! Skee-Ball!
Chapter 27: Prim and Rue, now best friends, hide lollipops from each other and chase each other around as they try to find them. They call it the Candy Games. And they ride unicorns.
You are wonderful
OMG PLEASE WRITE THIS BOOK. I NEED IT.
What a magnificent synopsis. Can't wait to read it. So many upvotes for you.
Boggs kicks Peeta in the face with his robot legs; he returns to normal. Meanwhile, Beetee builds a resurrection machine out of moss and paper clips and brings Rue, Mags, Wiress, Thresh, and, yes, even our beloved Foxface back to life.
YOU FORGOT ABOUT CINNA. THE UNICORNS WON'T BE HAPPY WITHOUT HIM. AND NEITHER WILL WE.
Other than that This comment was ~perfection~.
DAMMIT I KNEW I WAS FORGETTING SOMEONE.
(Seriously, I was trying to think of everyone who had died already, and I knew there was someone awesome who needed to be brought back, but I couldn't figure out who. I must still cling to the WE NEVER SAW A BODY theory of Cinna's Schroedingerian state of being.)
Cinna's Schroedingerian state of being! I love this description 🙂
Why hasn't the Capitol made unicorns real? I mean, look at the shit they've pumped out! MAKE FUCKING UNICORNS.
But does the ginormous cake have a frosting coal car?!
Skeeball and unicorns are the only things that can turn this society around. Thank you for this! 🙂
Or perhaps a frosting sailboat a la Chapter 16? Heheh
GEEZUS!! NO SPOILERS MAN! (At least you didn't include Buttercup becoming president — OH CRAP.)
Yes, new head canon. Long live the Candy Games!! (And Foxface)
ILU.
Mark, you will never be prepared for what is happening. Never. I've been waiting for you to get to this section for the. entire. series.
You will not only need a new keyboard from the smashes, but the tears as well. Be ready.
Fucking TRUTH!
I've been waiting for this scene for the entire book, because it's so beautifully constructed and so freaking BRUTAL. We finally start getting happy, we finally get back on an even keel and then WHAM. EVERYTHING BLOWS UP. Which is why she let it get happy in the first place.
And you can't really be ready. You can't. Not without severe spoilers, a bottle of wine and an on-hand therapist.
Very true. I'm dreading this part now and I'm not sure I can reread it.
There is literally nothing I can say from this point on that would not be a spoiler. Except that I deduce that all Avoxes are red haired and the Capital only uses people with red hair to be Avoxes because it's easier to keep track of them. That's why they shot that guy Lavinia was with and kept her. She was a redhead and he wasn't.
It's amazing how Collins makes me care so much about characters I just fucking met. I was so fucking sad when Leeg 2 died, but I had just met her like 2 pages ago!
Now, I will be silent,
HOLY SHIT have we encountered any non-ginger avoxes yet?! D8
There are non-gingered avoxs, otherwise why would Effie comment on having "A matched set this year"
Also implying last year (74th games) they did not
Cause Effie's dumb as dirt and Collins wants to be horrible by tying Effie's lack of tact and the Capital's brutality together in a neat little bow.
Pollux is also an Avox, but he has blond (I think she called it "sandy") hair (though he does have a red beard).
I'm pretty sure that there were a lot of Avoxes in the Capitol when Katniss was there (I seem to remember every main meal having Avox servers/waiters, though I could be mistaken about that). It's just that Katniss didn't care to comment on what they all looked like, so they were just "an Avox boy" or "an Avox girl" or "an Avox" (and for some reason seldom or never "Avox man" and "Avox woman").
If all Avoxes were red-headed, it wouldn't make sense that Katniss distinguishes the one she recognizes from the forest as "the red-headed Avox girl," because that would describe all of the young female Avoxes she's encountered.
Pollux's beard is still red. And Peeta says the two Avoxes were referred to as "the redheads" (even though one would think their being Avoxes more significant than hair color). From what I remember, the only Avoxes Katniss encounters are Lavinia and Darius. I don't think Katniss distinguishes Lavinia for having red hair, but she's just describing her with the little information she has ("red hair" and "avox" and all Katniss knows about Lavinia). Katniss knew Lavinia and Darius and that's why she comments on them, not because they look different from other Avoxes.
Late notification was late.
I'm pretty sure the only Avoxes mentioned in Catching Fire are Lavinia and Darius, but I checked The Hunger Games earlier and there are other Avoxes in that. The morning after meeting Lavinia, she encounters a "young man, an Avox" who's there to serve her breakfast. Then two Avoxes (no other characterization other than that they were "gaping" at her) guarding the elevator she uses after she shoots the arrow at the roast pig during her interview and an "Avox boy" who directs her to breakfast after she had the tracker put in on the hovercraft.
*sticks fingers in ears and says la la la la can't hear you*
It says "Soldier Everdeen" somewhere in this review and that just makes me think of that one Bourne movie where they say "This is not a drill, soldier" because my sister says it all the time. And the propos they're filming– nope not a drill, soldier.
I'm a Shakespeare nerd. Anyone notice the Avox was named Lavinia? Lavinia's the girl in Titus Andronicus whom the two sons of Tamora, queen of the Goths, rape and then they cut off her hands AND TONGUE. She is mute for the rest of the play. And then Titus kills her, to save her honor. I wanted a female Avox to be named Lavinia, and Suzanne Collins delivered. ICWYDT Collins!
I don't think I picked up on the Lavinia thing until I read Mark's review. Suddenly it just clicked!
The second I read her name I was able to have a moment of joy before remembering that they were killed.. Titus Andronicus is my all time favorite Shakespeare play
Woot! Anything Shakespeare is a happy (even when it's something depressing like removed tongues).
I know!! I loved this part, it shows how much she really must love him if she's been paying attention to these small details all along.
Talk about a depressing chapter. Finding out about Darius and Lavinia's fate was heartbreaking, along with Peeta trying desperately to remember his past, Katniss realizing that Coin is looking to make her a martyr, and Boggs's legs getting blown off? Ooh boy. Although on a positive note I'm glad Katniss has stopped acting so defensive around Peeta and is trying to help him remember instead.
And Mark you are still totally unprepared BTW!
Nooooo Boggs! I'm sure he'll be OK, legs aren't that important. It's only a flesh wound.
Right?
He'll be fine- just like Lieutenant Dan because you can get along fine without your legs and then Finnick or some other awesome person can reassure him the same way Forrest does. “Ice cream, Lt. Dan, ice cream!” And Boggs will get all the ice cream he wants.
Least they didn't get his arms?
Just when I started to really like Boggs :'(
This is the point where my marathoning of the trilogy doubled in speed — everything from this point blurs. I know exactly what happened, but couldn't tell you which chapter. Which is why I've been silent throughout the whole trilogy, really — not wanting to spoil! But I wanted to pop out of the woodwork to thank Mark for reading this series. I wouldn't have picked it up otherwise, but I am SO glad I did — I identify with Katniss WAY too much. Well, teenage-me would have identified with Katniss… my teenage years weren't event-wise as psychologically traumatising, but the events that did happen affected me so that … well, I just GET Katniss's thought process.
Also-also, late comment is late: did the schedules-on-the-arms that District 13 <3s so much remind anyone else of concentration camp tattoos?
fuckfuckfuckaduck I was so unprepared. ;_________;
I read your comment in the melody of "Row, row, row your boat, gently down the stream" in my head for some reason. I don't even know.
BOOOOGGS!
🙁
When I read that I said JESUS FUCKING CHRIST really loud. It was 3AM so no one cared but still… this chapter handles several things at once, and then delivers the kill with reminder that they are at war and we cannot have nice things in this series.
Damn.
*sobs a bit*
Even Chuck Norris is not prepared for what's coming.
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Oh Mark. Ever since you hopped on the Boggs bandwagon, I was dreading you getting to this chapter. Sadfaces forever.
But I do feel the need to bring up something else: Why is Coin having propos filmed at all? Who else is needs them at this point? They’ve won over all of Panem. Is it for the remaining citizens of the Capitol?
I wondered a lot about that, too, but I think it's just for the people in the Capitol, mainly, to let them know that the rebels are about to really take over, and probably also for the rebels that stayed in the districts to give them hope and let them know that the end of Snow's reign of terror is almost over and that their Mockingjay is still alive and fucking shit up (and maybe to show people Peeta, that he's back??). I would also consider they want to make Snow scared to think that people are coming after him, but after all the shit he's done, he doesn't strike me as the sort of person who would actually be afraid of people coming to kill him, even if he thought they might succeed.
I am loving every bit of Peeta's dialog now; this is great stuff. It's so much more interesting than those cave scenes from the first book or whatever it is he did in "Catching Fire." All I remember is "We're pregnant!" I wonder why he hasn't asked if that was real or not yet? And what if someone was around that thought the lie was real? Exciting!
I am just rolling my eyes at these cliffhangers, though. Collins, you are not surprising me with this crap. You pull out a 'wham line' at the end of EVERY chapter. Set up the final paragraphs to be as uplifting as you want; I will always be expecting bombs, or fire, or mutated hermit crabs heralding in Armageddon by the time that last sentence hits. I will be expecting it on the LAST PAGE at this point.
RRRGH, and I am so tempted to look. :'(
Coin isn't evil. She's a politician.
That may or may not be the same thing.
Finally Katniss isn't acting like a total tool towards Peeta. I know she has the emotional range of teaspoon, but honestly, sometimes she doesn't even seem to be aware that other people are in possession of feelings.
Motto for The Hunger Games ==>> DON'T GET TOO ATTACHED
I get how Katniss can be more useful as a martyr at this point, but it doesn't make sense that Peeta would be the one to kill him. The entire country is united behind the inspiration of the Starcrossed Lovers, so if *PEETA* kills Katniss, I think that would be bad for morale. Now, if a Peacekeeper kills her, then she'd be a martyr. It's like how the US Army tried to cover up the Pat Tillman friendly-fire incident, because it was much more inspirational if he was killed by the Taliban than if he was accidentally shot by Americans.
NEVER *keysmash* PREPARED. Boggs!! :'( He had really grown on me as a character in this book. He has to make it, right? Can't they do something really weird like they did with Katniss after the first Games and with Peeta since he lost a leg too?
I love that Collins is one of the few writers who's willing to not only give their main character believable flaws, but then has the guts to have one of the other beloved characters call them on said flaws, and be utterly right about it.
WIN
Pools of sorrow,
waves of joy. This is getting impossibly sad.Collins really has to stop talking about torture. I don't want to sound Smeyer-y, but that is one thing that I can't tolerate. It just makes me sick. I mean, I appreciate all these little details that make the war real and believable, but man it is hard.
And I'm zipping my mouth before I blurb something spoilery.
I'm so happy I did not read this the way you are. I never had time to think "only x many chapters left, how is this going to go??", I just turned the page. I tried to read the third book chapter by chapter with you but… that isn't working out, I had to take a break for you to catch up, but now I'm pretty much done with the book again.
You made me love this book, btw, I didn't really like it before because it's lack of focus on Prim and her mom, but this time when you write your opinions and everyone else says their opinion, I kind of get it. Still would like a bit more Prim in it, though
Guys, this is completely unrelated but I can’t say anything without spoiling right now. I’m skiing in Switserland (sp? It’s written different in dutch) and today someone fell close to me and I kid you not, exclaimed “Merlin’s beard!”
Excuse me, I'm gonna go pack for Switz'land now. Anyone wanna come?
Yes.
How to Survive The "Hunger Games Trilogy":
a) Like no-one. Not the little flying girl. Not the awesome little old lady. Not the Commander.
b) Don't fool yourself into preparedness.
c) Don't empathise with anything or anyone.
d) Don't fall into the 'happy' traps.
e) Don't expect shit to get less real.
f) Don't judge.
g) Smile like you mean it. When you never will.
h) Get your tear-ducts removed.
i) Follow Lady Macbeth and "Stop up the access and passage to remorse"
and finally:
j) Just don't even read it. You'll miss out on awesomeness, but at least you'll not know pain.
In response to j), what about that quote "It is better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all"? I loved this series and I would def say that the awesomeness should not be missed out on 😉
I do agree with all other Hunger Games survival tips though!!!!! *that is, survival tips for reading the hunger games, not competing in them… although I suspect that most of these could be considered interchangeable – I have one addition for the latter though, in the words of the lovely Haymitch Abernathy, "Stay alive" !!!
I was debating with myself on whether or not I should include j. 🙂
Haha true,,, to be honest I really have a love-hate relationship with Mockingjay, at times I can see how J may be the best possible advice !
And actually, I'm being slightly hypocritical but not really because, I read Mockingjay the day it came out and then I told my sister NEVER! to read it and kept it away from her for months… I finally let her read it last month, this book is painful but necessary
"Triggering the bomb that blows off his legs."
When I read that, I actually said "WHAT." out loud. I was in the car with my mom at the time, and since she had already finished the book, she just laughed and laughed. I'm beginning to think that she's a little bit evil.
Also, I'd just like to say, fuck Peeta, and fuck Gale. What Katniss needs to do is run away with Johanna and have 80 million of her snarky, axe-slinging babies. Then Peeta could marry Finnick and Annie and Delly and Gale could just marry Coin. Then Cinna could ride in on a unicorn and save everybody and be President with Buttercup as first cat.
I said, "Oh, nooooo….. Noooo…. Oh, oh… Oh, no…" And my mom actually came into my room, past midnight, like, "What are you reading?" xD Normal moms would ask, "What are you doing?" but she knows my reactions to prose a little too well.
I couldn't say anything during this entire book, as I read it backstage at the musical I was in. It was hard.
Haha, totally high five. I was doing the same thing. What was your musical?
Into the Woods <:D
Dang it. That was not meant to be a "less then smiley face". That was meant to be a wizard smiley face. 🙁
Ah, here we go: cue the water-works….
This was just the beginning of a thousand tears for me.
BOGGS. BOGGS. BOGGS.
I just . . . fuck it, guys. This is all too terrible and sad. EVERYTHING SUCKS AND WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE.
EVERYTHING:
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BUT BUT BUT
Finnick can save him with some ~magical~ 'CPR' like he did Peeta, right? RIGHT?
No? Fine. I'll go cry in the corner now
Naww, Finnick has to rub some aloe on his neck first!
SHIT. REAL OR NOT REAL?
THE ANSWER TO THAT IS REAL.
Well played!
This book was made just for Mark reads.
BOGGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *sobs*
I'm not going to focus on the idea of GALE AND KATNISS ADVENTURES (AS BEST FRIENDS AS THEY TAKE DOWN THE CAPITOL) and pretend that nothing bad is going to happen….
I'm just trying to think happy thoughts of frosting sailboats…
WAAAAAAAH D:
But seriously, there's nothing left to say that won't spoil the ending for you except this: You'd better not be running out of sad/surprised GIFS, because you will need them for these next 8 chapters. Oh, and buy a new keyboard, because there will be a lot keyboard smashing. Long story short, YOU ARE NOT PREPARED.
"You're a painter. You're a baker. You like to sleep with the windows open. You never take sugar in your tea. And you always double-knot your shoelaces." Then I dive into my tent before I do something stupid like cry.
Aaand that, I think, is when *I* started crying because THE SADS, THEY ARE OVERWHELMINGLY THERE. Mockingjay came out at a really bad time for me emotionally. I was already having a rough time, and then in Mockingjay Collins was like, "O HAI THERE R U SAD? LET ME CRUSH ANY REMAINING JOY." But of course the book was unputdownable (totally a word. Shut up), so I pretty much didn't ever stop reading it and snapped at anyone who interrupted me.
They used the word "unputdownable" in the commercial for James Patterson's new book, so feel free to consider it a word lol 🙂
My day is now made. 😀
That is seriously one of my favorite parts of the book. It was just so… daaaaaaaw :'(
That passage just makes me want to hug both of them.
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I hereby second these words out of fear that anything else I say would spoil you as well.
When I read the series I had to re-read lines like "Triggering the bomb that blows off his legs." because they were written so nonchalantly and I was hall and oates thru the pages to find out what happens next.
I LOVE YOU BOGGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lavinia is of course a reference to Lavinia Andronicus of old Billy Shakespeare's 'Titus Andronicus'.
In the play, Lavinia has her hands and tongue cut off to stop her communicating. Horrific, upsetting stuff. 🙁
BOGGS! *endless rain of tears*
"But more words tumble out. 'You're a painter. You're a baker. You like to sleep with the windows open. You never take sugar in your tea. And you always double-knot your shoelaces.' Then I dive into my tent before I do something stupid like cry."
I love them forever. They are so full of heartbreak and sadness and yet so overwhelmingly sweet together. *hugs them both*
Oh gosh THIS CHAPTER. I don't remember exactly if it was this chapter or the next one, but I got to this point where I just COULD NOT PUT THE BOOK DOWN and ended up blazing through the last few chapters in one agonizing sitting late at night, finally finishing up in the wee early hours of the morning.
Saying anything else would be spoilery so I'll just echo everyone else and say YOU WILL NOT EVER EVER EVER BE PREPARED."
BOGGSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.
i'd grown to love boggs and i was absolutely bawling my eyes out at this point.
In the paragraph before he got his legs blown off, I had officially decided that I loved Boggs, not just liked but loved. When it said that he was trying to hide a smile, I imagined it to be like a "You guyzzzzz" moment, then BOOM (no pun intended) Boggs gets blown up! So pissed. Collins kills everyone I love.
Hunger Games music video, "Real or Not Real" by ALL CAPS. Check it out!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MC2iiRp0I8
I thought for sure I was about to be Rickrolled, but, what the shit, that's a real song.
The books really go by really fast, don't they ?
Playing catch-ups because I've been super-busy at work. Just. MOST appropriate Rose gif. Oh, Katniss likes someone? They dead!
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It took days to finish him off. Beating, cutting off parts.
Yeah Darius of the flirty Hob and the tried to save Gale —- The first one to step in —
So how is that whole kissing trama now?
I wonder what parts? Parts — cut — off.
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Jackson devises an ingenuous game called "Real or Not Real" to help Peeta sort through all of the thoughts running through his brain.
You mean ingenious?
Man, will we ever find out the backstory to these characters??? I still want to know why Lavinia ran away from the Capitol in the first place. And how did she know about District 13 (which I presumed her to be running to)? And who was the boy she was running away with? Someone from the Districts surely since they didn't hesitate to kill him. And now Boggs has done gone and gotten his legs blown off.
WWWHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYY?????????
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I was surprised you didn't include this part.
"Your favorite color. . . It's green?" Peeta asks "That's right," Then I think of something to add, "And yours is orange." "Orange?" He seems unconvinced. "Not bright orange, but soft like the sunset." I say, "At least that's what you told me once." "Oh," He closes his eyes briefly, maybe trying to conjure up that sunset, then nods his head. "Thank you." But more words tumble out. "You're a painter. You're a baker. You like to sleep with the windows open. You never take sugar in your tea. And you always double-knot your shoelaces." Then I dive into my tent before I do something stupid like cry.
I swore that would be in here! That it would TOTALLY get you.
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