{"id":4736,"date":"2018-10-17T05:00:13","date_gmt":"2018-10-17T12:00:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/markreads.net\/reviews\/?p=4736"},"modified":"2018-10-14T17:28:31","modified_gmt":"2018-10-15T00:28:31","slug":"mark-reads-the-science-of-discworld-ii-chapter-17-chapter-18-part-i","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/markreads.net\/reviews\/2018\/10\/mark-reads-the-science-of-discworld-ii-chapter-17-chapter-18-part-i\/","title":{"rendered":"Mark Reads &#8216;The Science of Discworld II&#8217;: Chapter 17 \/ Chapter 18, Part I"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In the seventeenth and eighteenth chapters of <i>The Science of Discworld II<\/i>, the wizards confront the Queen of the Elves; we learn about information. Intrigued? Then it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s time for Mark to read <i>Discworld<\/i>.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00c2\u00a0<\/span><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>So, this will admittedly be a shorter review because aside from the fiction section, I didn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t really find much to respond to in these chapters. I don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t really have much to relate to or tell stories about in regards to information and DNA, but I did want to talk about the Queen. I still think that the Discworld story in this book is much more interesting than in the first <i>Science<\/i> book, so there\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s a part of me that kind of wants to just read all the fiction chapters because HOW!!! How are these wizards going to fix this problem? I still don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t see a solution, though I do think chapter eighteen gives us a major clue. As the text puts it, the elves gave humans stories but no information. The Queen gloats because she knows she\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s put the wizards in the midst of a disaster. This isn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t technically their world; the elves have left the Disc alone. But in Roundworld, they\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve successfully set humans on a new path. Their lives are full of stories, but without information, without <i>context<\/i>, all they do is&#8230; well, they just <i>believe<\/i> them. And that kind of world is probably one where humans are just perpetually terrified. They believe in things that are not there and cannot happen, and that leads into them believing<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00c2\u00a0<\/span><i> more<\/i>:<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00c2\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u00e2\u20ac\u0153They believe in it here, and it <i>doesn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t<\/i>,\u00e2\u20ac\u009d said the Queen. \u00e2\u20ac\u0153And thus they believe in it even more, while ceasing to believe in themselves. Isn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t it astonishing?\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00c2\u00a0<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Thus, the wizards are now outliers; they want to save a world that doesn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t believe that worlds can be saved. They want to be heroes for a world that doesn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t think that heroes exist. They are <i>truly<\/i> alone in this, because narrativium has not given humans a need to rise above a sort of default immorality. So how the hell do the wizards give humans <i>context<\/i>? Where the hell does that come from? I gotta say, though, that I immensely enjoyed this exchange, now that I know who Ponder is referring to:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u00e2\u20ac\u0153We we <i>didn\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t<\/i> stop it, we got people like Dee, head half full of rubbish.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/p>\n<p>\u00e2\u20ac\u0153I know someone who\u00e2\u20ac\u2122d be right at home with this problem,\u00e2\u20ac\u009d said Ridcully, thoughtfully.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00c2\u00a0<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Seriously, who else has to deal with people whose heads are half full of rubbish ALL THE TIME? Granny Weatherwax. But how are they going to get her to care? This is Roundworld, not Discworld. Is she going to even <i>want<\/i> to help them at all? I don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t know, but I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m also excited for another reason: we haven\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t had witches and wizards interacting in the same book for a long time, so I <i>know<\/i> this is gonna be a treat.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00c2\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Anyway! I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122m looking forward to seeing what sort of conversations arise in the comments regarding chapter eighteen. I\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve wracked my brain but I honestly don\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t have anything terribly interesting to share with y\u00e2\u20ac\u2122all.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00c2\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>https:\/\/youtu.be\/ekLN0Fn5Nwo<\/p>\n<p><b>Mark Links Stuff<\/b><\/p>\n<p>&#8211; <strong>My YA contemporary debut, <a href=\"https:\/\/bit.ly\/AngerIsAGift\">ANGER IS A GIFT<\/a>, is now out in the world!\u00c2\u00a0<\/strong><strong>If you&#8217;d like to stay up-to-date on all announcements regarding my books, <a href=\"http:\/\/eepurl.com\/ey636\">sign up for my newsletter<\/a>! DO IT.<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In the seventeenth and eighteenth chapters of The Science of Discworld II, the wizards confront the Queen of the Elves; we learn about information. Intrigued? 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