{"id":3763,"date":"2016-03-29T05:00:59","date_gmt":"2016-03-29T12:00:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/markreads.net\/reviews\/?p=3763"},"modified":"2016-03-27T15:36:03","modified_gmt":"2016-03-27T22:36:03","slug":"mark-reads-interesting-times-part-6","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/markreads.net\/reviews\/2016\/03\/mark-reads-interesting-times-part-6\/","title":{"rendered":"Mark Reads &#8216;Interesting Times&#8217;: Part 6"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In the sixth part of\u00c2\u00a0<i>Interesting Times<\/i>, Rincewind escapes and runs away like the professional coward that he is. Intrigued? Then it&#8217;s time for Mark to read\u00c2\u00a0<i>Discworld<\/i>.\u00c2\u00a0<!--more--><\/p>\n<p><b>Trigger Warning: For talk of racism (anti-Asian), and extensive talk of food<\/b>.<\/p>\n<p><b>Rincewind<\/b><\/p>\n<p>I\u00c2\u00a0<i>do<\/i>\u00c2\u00a0wish we&#8217;d see something more for Rincewind aside from his usual affair. I might be less distracted by the really uncomfortable shit that surrounds his story if I didn&#8217;t feel like this Rincewind book was unfolding just like all the others did. Obviously, it&#8217;s not the same story, but how many times can Pratchett write about Rincewind disliking adventure, running away from all conflict, and inadvertently helping out along the way? Truthfully, there&#8217;s a lot of repetition within the\u00c2\u00a0<i>Discworld<\/i>, but it&#8217;s usually much easier to ignore. Here, though, it feels forced. As funny as a few of these gags are,\u00c2\u00a0<i>Interesting Times<\/i>\u00c2\u00a0comes across as if Rincewind is darting from one punchline to the next instead of one part of the story to the next.<\/p>\n<p>I blame that partially on the fact that I don&#8217;t actually know what the conflict is in this book. Is it Rincewind&#8217;s need to get home? Is it the polite revolution that people are quietly waging against the Empire? Is Rincewind literally going to be a white savior for these people? Like, even if that&#8217;s accidentally, that&#8217;s not exactly all that better. Yet after this section, I&#8217;m now getting the sense that this might actually happen. Rincewind\u00c2\u00a0<i>accidentally<\/i>\u00c2\u00a0administers a competitive exam for the position of\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6 well, something to do with literal shit. He\u00c2\u00a0<i>accidentally<\/i>\u00c2\u00a0enters an inn where he\u00c2\u00a0<i>accidentally<\/i>\u00c2\u00a0identifies himself as a rebel because of that pamphlet he\u00c2\u00a0<i>accidentally<\/i>\u00c2\u00a0got.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ll get back to that. Let&#8217;s talk about food:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Besides, he liked Hunghungese food. A few refugees had opened restaurants in Ankh-Morpork and Rincewind considered himself something of an expert on the dishes.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>There is a cool joke in here somewhere, but I don&#8217;t think Pratchett executes it well. The problem I see with any attempt to interpret it is that I can&#8217;t quite tell where he&#8217;s directing this satire. On the one hand, I\u00c2\u00a0<i>think<\/i>\u00c2\u00a0he might be describing a very common behavior in white people: when they consider themselves an expert in a non-white culture&#8217;s cuisine. The text might support that, given that Rincewind demonstrates that he can&#8217;t even name the food he likes without a menu, nor is he at all aware that Hunghungese food in Ankh-Morpork is totally unlike the food that people actually eat here. That dynamic really does exist in our world! How many foods are watered down to better adapt to a more bland palate? I&#8217;m not talking about cultural exchange or the brilliance of cultural\u00c2\u00a0fusion. There&#8217;s a specific phenomenon at work here that you can see all over Europe, the UK, the United States, Canada\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6 you get the idea. Have you ever had &#8220;Mexican&#8221; food in Stockholm, Sweden? I have. It was the only meal of the last decade that I simply refused to finish because it was so disgusting. (STOP FILLING EVERYTHING WITH SOUR CABBAGE, THAT&#8217;S NOT HOW THAT WORKS.) But I&#8217;m used to Mexican food in the Southwest, particularly the way that Mexican and Central American food has grown and adapted and changed in Southern California. There are certain flavors I need or find deplorable that others don&#8217;t.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m still mad about the sour cabbage and the complete lack of any spice in any of the &#8220;hot&#8221; sauces or &#8220;salsas,&#8221; though. NO.<\/p>\n<p>But I&#8217;m worried that Pratchett isn&#8217;t going that far. Given what I&#8217;ve read in the previous sections of\u00c2\u00a0<i>Interesting Times<\/i>, there seems to be an amount of scorn heaped on these people that we don&#8217;t really see in other books describing other cultures. It&#8217;s the kind of satire and humor written in a way that assumes all players are on equal ground and deserve equal amounts of criticism, and I&#8217;m not so sure that&#8217;s fair. While Pratchett is certainly foolish in ordering his\u00c2\u00a0<i>perception<\/i>\u00c2\u00a0of Hunghungese food, Pratchett never makes any sort of comment on this horrible bit about what that food is in Ankh-Morpork:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Such as Dish of Glistening Brown Stuff, Dish of Glistening Crunchy Orange Stuff, and Dish of Soft White Lumps.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I&#8217;d prefer it if I had any evidence that Pratchett knew he was invoking such an awful racist trope, but I can&#8217;t tell at all. I can&#8217;t tell if this joke is at Rincewind&#8217;s expense or he&#8217;s actually making fun of Chinese food! (And, again, a\u00c2\u00a0<i>version<\/i>\u00c2\u00a0of dishes changed for consumption in a local culture.) Honestly, this joke is almost verbatim what I&#8217;ve heard from uncultured white people whenever they eat Asian food from any number of cultures. It&#8217;s all weird colors, it all glistens, it&#8217;s lumpy, and it looks lifeless. So\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6 which is it?<\/p>\n<p>And now we&#8217;ve got to talk about Twoflower because I AM CONFUSED. I absolutely\u00c2\u00a0<i>loved<\/i>\u00c2\u00a0the reveal that Twoflower&#8217;s account of his time spent in Ankh-Morpork during the\u00c2\u00a0<i>The Colour of Magic<\/i>\u00c2\u00a0and\u00c2\u00a0<i>The Light Fantastic<\/i>\u00c2\u00a0is what comprised\u00c2\u00a0<i>What I Did<\/i><i>\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6<\/i>\u00c2\u00a0It&#8217;s so clever! Until I had to ask an uncomfortable question:<\/p>\n<p>Wasn&#8217;t Twoflower\u00c2\u00a0<i>white<\/i>?<\/p>\n<p>At least, that&#8217;s what I remember, and that&#8217;s\u00c2\u00a0how he&#8217;s depicted in every piece of fanart that I&#8217;ve seen of him. How does\u00c2\u00a0<i>that<\/i>\u00c2\u00a0make sense? Okay, maybe that&#8217;s simply an issue of the fandom not knowing anything about the Agatean Empire until this book, and thus, their information wasn&#8217;t complete. Now it is! So\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6 is he still white? Do fans draw him looking Asian? And if they do, do you mean to tell me that Twoflower is a bumbling, ignorant tourist who takes pictures of everything? That would make him a very obvious racial stereotype and LITERALLY EVERY OPTION MAKES ME UNCOMFORTABLE.<\/p>\n<p>So, Twoflower unknowingly set this all in motion, and now, the revolutionaries are reaching out to Rincewind for help. I think there\u00c2\u00a0<i>is<\/i>\u00c2\u00a0something neat about perspective in this story. To the people who&#8217;ve lived under an empire as oppressive as this one, Ankh-Morpork seems like\u00c2\u00a0<i>heaven<\/i>\u00c2\u00a0to them. Yet I think it&#8217;s pretty obvious how weird\u00c2\u00a0<i>that<\/i>\u00c2\u00a0feels, too. A mostly-white part of the Discworld is the place to be emulated and adored? Granted, I don&#8217;t actually think that this is the entire message. Part of the joke is that to Rincewind, Ankh-Morpork is a huge mess and not at all what these people think it is. So I wonder if Pretty Butterly,\u00c2\u00a0who finally nabs Rincewind, will see through this. She doesn&#8217;t seem ready to worship Rincewind at\u00c2\u00a0<i>all<\/i>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;You are maintaining a disguise?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Yes.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It is a very good one.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Thank you, because\u00e2\u20ac\u201c&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Only a great wizard would dare to look like such a pathetic piece of humanity.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>BLESS. But I actually found this second part far more interesting:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;Listen to me,&#8221; she said. &#8220;A lot of bad things are happening. I don&#8217;t believe in great wizards, but other people do, and sometimes people need something to believe in. And if these other people die because we&#8217;ve got a wizard who is not so very great, then he will be a very unlucky wizard indeed. You may be the Great Wizard. If you are not, then I suggest you study very hard to be great. Do I make myself clear?&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>See, there&#8217;s a lot of great potential here! If Rincewind inspires people, that&#8217;s great, especially if that means that these people get to otherwise run the revolution as they see fit. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s as bad if this happens, and that&#8217;s what I hope we&#8217;ll see. But\u00c2\u00a0<i>how<\/i>? I don&#8217;t know that most folks would find Rincewind very inspiring, you know? I imagine that it&#8217;s probably going to happen\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6 accidentally.<\/p>\n<p>https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=dGIC_Su0-VY<\/p>\n<p><b>Mark Links Stuff<\/b><\/p>\n<p>&#8211; <b><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/markdoesstuff?ty=h\" target=\"_blank\">I am now on Patreon<\/a><\/b>!!! <a href=\"http:\/\/markwatches.net\/reviews\/2015\/05\/updates-european-tour-patreon-h-a-l-p\/\" target=\"_blank\">MANY SURPRISES ARE IN STORE FOR YOU IF YOU SUPPORT ME<\/a>.<br \/>\n&#8211; I\u00c2\u00a0will be at numerous conventions in 2016! <a href=\"http:\/\/markreads.net\/reviews\/tour-dates-appearances\/\" target=\"_blank\">Check the full list of events on my Tour Dates \/ Appearances page.<\/a><br \/>\n&#8211; My <a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/calendar\/embed?src=815s3sbr8clhdi9tn8k7r3tim4%40group.calendar.google.com&amp;ctz=America\/Los_Angeles\">Master Schedule<\/a> is updated for the near and distant future for most projects, so please check it often.\u00c2\u00a0<b>My next Double Features for Mark Watches will be <em>Death Note<\/em>\u00c2\u00a0and\u00c2\u00a0<em>Neon Genesis Evangelion<\/em>. On Mark Reads, Diane Duane&#8217;s <i>Young Wizards<\/i> series will replace the Emelan books.<br \/>\n<\/b>-\u00c2\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/markdoesstuff\">Mark Does Stuff is on Facebook!<\/a>\u00c2\u00a0I&#8217;ve got a community page up that I&#8217;m running. Guaranteed shenanigans!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In the sixth part of\u00c2\u00a0Interesting Times, Rincewind escapes and runs away like the professional coward that he is. Intrigued? 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